#5 Elijah Tsatas

I don’t think anyone’s disputing that he’s a poor kick. It’s whether his other attributes can offer value to the side despite the poor kicking and whether his kicking can improve.

Interesting stat, the retention. Where can I see this? Would love to know where Tsatas sits against our other midfielders.

Also noted that Taranto, Butters, Rowell, Newcombe & Oliver all pretty poor also, but nothing like Tsatas.

Those guys are also years older and significantly stronger and more experienced than Tsatas - not sure these comparisons are really fair for a literal kid

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There are other players with particularly poor retention and threat ratings so far this year. This list is ordered by retention rating from low to high and excluding all players averaging under a 10 player rating. I wouldnt say the rest of that top 5 are bad players and of them only Wardlaw has a smaller sample size then Tsatas.

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Highlights from his VFL game up on the club app now

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Clearances only matter if they result in score involvements. How many of Tsatas’s clearances result in direct score involvements?

That’s not true at all. There are no available stats on that and the sample size is too small anyway.

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It certainly does matter. No use getting a clearance that goes direct to the opposition and therefore giving then controlled use of the ball.

Score involvement and direct turnover are not the only possible results of a clearance.

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2025 essendon mids sorted by kick retention rating

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you can use a hold of different stat filters and such to create different comparisons of different types of players.

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yeah, if you get it 50m downfield for a stoppage that’s a win. the problem for tsatas is turnover. i’d like to know how many of his clearances directly result in a turnover and compare that to other clearance mids.

When he kicks it while being tackled at a stoppage, probably a lot of them are turnovers, when he handballs it he is accurate and puts team mates into space, whether they turn it over after that isn’t his responsibility.

well, it might be if he handballs to guy under the hammer instead of the guy who has actually got to the outside if that’s possible. But i take your point. my guess is about 25% of his clearances are resulting directly in turnovers

actually he’s 20 years 6 months.

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I wouldn’t be surprised if 25% of all clearances are turnovers. It’s pretty common to see rushed kicks out of stoppage be cut off by the opposition. I would guess Tsatas is probably worse then average when kicking out of a stoppage but better then average when handballing and he handballs more often.

How old was he in June last year?

Provide the stats, not assumptions or guesses.

Yeah I only realised I was interpreting the stat wrong last week. Hoyne mentioned that Demons were the worst team at turning first possession into a clearance.

So I believe if you pickup the ball from a stoppage and play hot potato and handball it to a team mate under pressure, that is not a clearance. But if you get the handball receive and hack kick it forward, that’s a clearance

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There are no stats on this…