#6 The Joe Dan Thread - the bit between Diggers trolling us and THE RETURN

So Joe at stage 1 moving to 2, and Stewart at 2 then?

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Assumption clearly he’s been at level 1.

Hoping to get green light to progress to level 2, which is where Stewart is at now having started running.

Unless of course JD been running already behind closed doors.

Edit. What Frosty already said

Yep, assuming Joe can manage the Stage 1 ā€œPainfree Crossoverā€, which can be tricky to negotiate.

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Is Joe on one of those ninja shows?

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I can’t remember if it’s known or been discussed, … but for some reason I always had the Idea that the pain / strain was most troubling/aggravated when kicking??

IF, that’s the case, then maybe he’d be better off in the Ruck, taking the tap, making position for marks around the ground, being a target coming out of the b/line etc, and just bringing it to ground at least or quickly h/passing on to a runner, … then resting in the Fwd pocket beside Stringer/Smack, and taking the odd easy goal kick from close in? :thinking:

Also, … here’s a curve ball theory, … Is it possible JD had his weird r’s goal kicking style because he was sub consciously protecting his groin/avoiding pain / strain etc, … and when Lloyd came in and trained him to kick for Goal straight, … that that’s when the OP pain/problem began??

I can’t readily recall the time frame on how closely the trouble followed, … :thinking:

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I have also wondered if a transition to ruck is better long term. Not sure on all the running though, but even the running could be more long steady runs of a ruckman rather than power sprinting a key forward needs to do.

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I don’t recall any talk of it being worse when kicking, but it’s all likely related.

Fix the underlying problem and the issue goes away though, rather than treating the symptom by avoiding the action.

(Which isn’t to say that he couldn’t win the Brownlow playing in the ruck!)

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And whether it’s related to the Lloyd biomechanics stuff, who knows. But I doubt Lloyd has a degree in biomechanics or exercise physiology, so there’s potential that they were trying to implement something for which Joe’s body didn’t have the makeup and hence may have been problematic?

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I found the interview encouraging . But when does the 9 week program start?

I also am curious about the advice. the surgeon would have given as it appears surgery was not as successful as it ought to
have been if one takes note of the recovery by Brad Crouch.

The surgery is not a guaranteed cure, which is why people tend to be conservative, rather than just jumping in to it.

Crouch seems to have got a good result, but it’s different for different cases, depending on the underlying issue etc etc.

(I guess)

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One thing I did hear JD say after the surgery was that the severe pain was no longer there and he added ā€œ and that’s niceā€ .

I do not recall that there was ever so much expectation or apprehension on one player at a club as JD. I really believe if he fires up like say ANZAC day we can beat anyone.

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I sure hope you’re right

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Imagine how bad Joey is at video games if he can’t even pass level one of this Track & Field game.

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Tim Watson urges Bombers to speak openly on Daniher injury

By SEN

Essendon great Tim Watson says he remains cautions about assessing Joe Daniher’s injury status before hearing from the club itself.

His comments come after Daniher visited specialist sports doctor Dr Andy Franklyn-Miller in an attempt to fix a debilitating groin injury.

Dr Franklyn-Miller said the unique nature of the lab’s testing around the injury meant players had to travel to Ireland for help rather than receive it in Australia.

ā€œIn an ideal world we’d have testing centres around the world where we could repeat the testing,ā€ he told SEN Breakfast .

ā€œClearly this is why people have to come to us in Dublin because we can’t replicate a lot of the lab data we can do here.

ā€œHere in Ireland with Gaelic football there’s some similarities for sure but really it’s anterior tip of the pelvis – the hip flexor and upper quad take a lot of the load. When they get tired, the lower adductor muscle tends to take a lot of the load.

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ā€œIt’s about learning how to address and pick that individual muscle to focus on is probably the answer here and looking at the detailed movement is the thing that’s not really been looking at in the past.ā€

The 24-year-old endured a tumultuous off-season, eventually staying at Essendon after failing to secure a move to Sydney.

But with the season less than two months away, Watson said he still didn’t know when Daniher would return to full fitness.

ā€œI would like to hear from the Essendon Football Club that Joe Daniher has returned to Melbourne, in full training and he’s going beautifully,ā€ he said on SEN Breakfast.

ā€œI haven’t heard that yet and until I hear that, I’m not more confident about where Joe Daniher will be this year.

ā€œSpeaking to Dr Andy Franklyn-Miller this morning, that gave me context about why he went to Ireland.

ā€œBut it didn’t tell me whether or not he’ll be able to go back and insert himself into training and whether he’ll be able to play out the year.ā€

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Watson says wants to hear Daniher fully fit & firing.

Ummm, … :thinking: So would we fkn all Tim.

This is not news.

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He is just giving his opinion and they printed it. Not sure what the issue is with it

yep - basically just said the nature of Daniher’s injury is that we have to wait and see what happens and the club is the only one who can tell us where he is at. All other comments are just speculation and mean diddly.

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Ahm…sounds like malarky, to me.

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Also - Tim & Terry are good mates who spend a lot of time together. If Terry knows it, Tim does also. Unfortunately, this is what media does to you.

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