Agreed.
I think it was to make sure, they had a live pick before Setterfield was nominated.
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Ahhh i see. Well they have certainly had a good run at! I look forward to seeing them just miss the GF again this year!
Has been playing for us for 2 years now mate
Donât even bother trying to critique that piece of fantasy. Utter nonsense in that assessment unfortunately VanderScreamer. You donât name a player we took at pick X and then go on to name players X, Y and Z that were taken âat some pointâ after said player and call that a âmissâ. I almost hope there is a biased agenda behind the post to paint the recruiting in a poor light - because the alternative is a fundamental lack of understanding of how a draft works (and how many other clubs âmissedâ those same players).
Honestly anyone stating a draft pick outside the first 2 rounds is a âfailâ has unrealistic expectations.
You need to ensure you hit on your first and second rounders.
Getting a good 100+ player out of your final 3 picks and rookies every second year is probably average. If you get more you have done well. How could anyone list van unen and Eades as failed recruiting. Fanciful. They are a complete bonus pick. And then listing 4 players that other clubs passed on amongst the next 40 selections as evidence of poor recruiting. Hot damn.
Failure is picking Shane Harvey, Cale Morton or Kane Lucas. Not Lachlan Dalgleish!
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I love the people trying to downplay the recruiters by claiming they donât get credit for picking highly rated players with their top picks. Talk about ignoring anything that doesnât fit your agenda.
Sure someone like Daniher was a bargain, but that ignores the years of work that would have gone into identifying his talent, not to mention all the work that they would have put into the other top players. Thereâs no way they recruited Daniher without having done their background on all the other players they rated as comparable talents. You can have a discounted access to someone, but it means nothing if you havenât done the work to determine how theyâre rated.
Your top picks are your most valuable commodity as a recruiter and getting as many of them right as possible is ultimately what will make lists contenders.
Letâs see how Emma Quayle performs at the end of this year.
If she nails it, then reporters can do the job.
So then we give Dodoroâs job to Cal Twomey and drop the microphone biiiaatches!
Itâs stating the flaming obvious, but the later the pick the lower the chance of getting a decent player.
Thereâs a nice chart at the bottom of this article that shows the average games played per pick:
1-15 picks should play 100+ games
- All our picks in this range look on track for long careers = Pass
16-30 ~75 games AFL average
- we have 1 Brownlow contender, 3 players in best 25, 1 potential delist from injuries, 2 developing = Pass
31-50 ~50 games
- Mutch vs Ashby = Pass
51+ ~40 games
- Brown, Hartley, Fantasia, Gleeson vs 5 that didnât make it = Better than AFL average
Late picks are there to take chances. The more you take and the faster you turn them over, the better chances of finding a gem. If anything weâve held onto fringe players too long as Dodoro has a strong record with late picks. Heâs running nearly a 50% success rate with picks 50+, which is far better than the norm.
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Except thatâs not really comparing his performance to Cal Twomeyâs, is it? Thatâs just listing a bunch of guys whoâve looked pretty good since theyâve been drafted, who we had the opportunity to draft. In 2014 we apparently âmissedâ seven blokes, despite only having two â â â â â â â picks. Hindsight being 20/20, thereâs not a club in the competition who doesnât look âaverageâ if you grade them on the entirety of good players they didnât pick.
The benchmark should be the recruiting teams from the other 17 clubs. And Iâd say that compared to most heâs been on pretty good streak lately.
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Everyone knows that Emma Watson and Tombstone get here lists from actually speaking with the recruiters right?
They are not super informed scouts⌠They are decent journalists who engage the right people to help formulate a view. Yes they may have some good insight because they live and breathe it but this are not independent draft profiles they are buildingâŚ
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I donât see why it should matter?
If anything, game theory - working out what your opponent thinks and moving accordingly - is a positive. Ie how we got Lav and Lang, we knew Carlton rated one but not the other, and took them according to how we rated them, not how the other club rated them.
Emma Quayle is now a recruiter for GWS.
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Rubbish. She was one of two journos whoâs been following the draft, under 18s & draft camp for 15+ years. Of course she has her own opinions, she was well worth reading at every opportunity.
GWS seem to disagree with you, but they would only rate her opinions because theyâd already told her what they thought!
When has Emma Watson ever recruited anyone?
Ahahahaha.
Jeeze youâre a bit special arenât you?
I was laughing at both my admiration for Emma Watson and the fact that I didnât know Emma Quayle was now a recruiter lol.
I doubled down lol.
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Agreed but they arenât just free swings either, I mean there must be some industry benchmark in which to use to measure success of third round picks onwards.
Is the mitch brown 1 year, the coup being talked about?