Adrian Dodoro - Flankers into Mids since 2000 (Part 2)

So you’re saying that if we hadn’t picked the good players, we’d only have bad players?

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High draft picks lack of progress / disposal. I’d argue this has in many instances been due to their inability to get them fit, training and playing.

Its no coincidence we’re seeing genuine progress this year in Jones and Cox. They’ve just had their first uninterrupted preseason.

We’re also seeing good progress in development of Perkins, Mc Grath (found his spot). Langford progress last 18 months outstanding.

To say our progress up the ladder is due to the luck of two late picks is shortsighted imo. It’s down to the cumulative gains across an entire club being the result of the refocus on football resourcing (development), improved coaching (tactics, game style, AFL lifestyle etc), reduction in stress injuries and improved culture. These are all contributing to a higher tide lifting all boats in unison.

I think this year isn’t the year though. Still growing pains ahead. But the next 2-4 years should bring success if the club broadly continues on its current stable and effective path in its entirety.

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Dodo’s talent has been picking the diamonds in the rough, guys passed up in drafts, Merrett, Martin etc.

But I still can’t say he’s done well when the club has the highest amount of top 10 picks of any club. High draft picks should be game breakers, what we have is good reliable competitors under Scott but not game winners.

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Stringer,Langford,Merret etc not game winners?

They’re Not high draft picks is my point

Stringer was pick 5 wasn’t he?

He was TRADED in , my point we have wasted our DRAFT PICKS. Did you skip comprehension in primary school?

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We deserve a little luck, had none with Father-sons plus Acadmey selections.

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He was pick 5 d1ckhead and all I did was ask a question.

bringing up stringer being pick 5 when we’re talking about picks dodoro uses is fairly facetious

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You must be a VERY lucky person if you think Brownlow-winning Jobe Watson wasn’t a successful father-son.

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He mentioned we have the most top 10 picks and no match winners. We only have the most because we have traded is stringer Wright Caldwell and Weed and stringer is definitely a match winner.

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If I’m pessimistic about list management
, can I say I’m “jackets on”?

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I was just about to back you up with this.

Especially after it was suggested you failed comprehension in primary school. Maybe someone failed the whole thing

From 2013 to 2023, four clubs took more top 10 picks to the draft than us (GC, GWS heaps more), and our 7 such picks was only 1-2 more than 7 other clubs in that time (including Collingwood, Brisbane, Melbourne, Sydney, Carlton and Bulldogs)

Source: https://www.afl.com.au/news/1062048/national-draft-your-clubs-top-10-picks-where-are-they-now-history-picks-no1

So it’s way off: people who argue the failure, at club “big bosses” level, to bottom out is the problem have much more substance to their argument.

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Does that include the high draft picks we gave up in trades?
There were several drafts where we traded out of due to the club mistakenly thinking they were close and just needed the “missing piece”

It doesn’t. Would be interesting to see, and to compare those numbers across the league.

List management isn’t just about top 10 picks. It’s about using all the aspects of list management to build a successful list. And it must be supported by a whole of club environment with all functions effectively supporting to to succeed. Top 10 picks, later picks, mid season, FA, trading… They’re all important. How you get there isn’t the point.

If he deserves criticism for failed top 10 picks, then he rightly should be applauded for later picks, FA and mid season picks.

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Some of our best players have come from certainly come from later picks.

But as a whole, our drafting in the later stages of the national draft has been pretty poor. Especially from 2017 to 2021.

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Isn’t that the job of the List manager to know where the List is at?

Interesting in the Saad El-hawli phone call vid, forster-knight called matt rosa our ‘list manager’. We knew dodoro was gonna take a backseat, but seeing rosa on gettable and having this title now, he’s assumed full responsibility of the list.

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