At the movies - From the couch

the “artistic integrity” argument is silly.

the blokes you’re mentioning are getting paid six-figure amounts for like 2-3 days of work. it’s a side-hustle for them. they’re not turning down other choices in favour of marvel movies.

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Not completely true. Marvel has some control over what other movies they can do.

Michael Keaton isn’t turning down movies to be a B villain in several Marvel movies?

Oh, I think he is.
It’s a bit of a blessing that Pitt, De Caprio, Cruise et al haven’t been sucked into it.

Cause they could have.
■■■■■■■, they even got Bale.

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Again…I like Marvel movies.

But I have to admit it ■■■■■■ me off that the cast of Ragnarok…which was barely okay, was…

Hemsworth
Hiddlestone
Blanchett
Elba
Goldblum
Ruffalo
Hopkins
Cumberbatch
Neill
Damon

God-Farking-Damn!
Imagine that cast in a real film!!!

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Watched ‘The Dry’ last night on Netflix. Wasn’t bad. Eric Bana doesn’t seem to be aging. What’s his secret?

Plastic surgery.

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I know people bang on about older films (and i agree on some)

But Christian Bale is still belting out films and he is the GOAT.

Mind you some of those fall into 2000s

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I think the reason some big names do these marvel films, is it then gives them the cash to take on the smaller films that they really want to make

John cusack spoke about this in an interview. Where every now and then he will do a big budget studio movie, which will allow him to get the smaller films that he loves doing greenlit.

Sometimes studios will say to actors, if you do this big budget movie for us- we will green light this small passion project you have. Happens a lot with directors to. Peter berg has spoken about how if he did Battleship for the studio, they would give him the money he needed to make Lone Survivor

And then some actors just do it for the easy money

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It’s a travesty that Goonies isn’t in your top 10 of the 80s. :wink:

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Zero dark thirty is probably my pick of the 2010’s. for others who rate it I highly recommend the limited series the looming tower.

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I really rate black hawk down as a balls to the wall type action film. Just non stop from go to woe. Incredibly tense and exhilarating.

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My bank has one of those for my kitchen, my living room, bathroom, in fact the whole ■■■■■■■ house at the moment.

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I was going to post this.

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Agreed

I have real issues with that film. Regardless of its artistic merits, it’s basically the Triumph Of The Will of George W Bush’s torture program.

I disagree…does it in anyway promote the torture program as something positive?

If they leave that stuff out, you would just end up with an early days American “rah, rah…we are the best” propaganda movie.

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It promotes the torture program as something that was effective, which it historically was not. It’s the whole Jack Bauer thing all over again. Excusing torture by the old ‘well it’s not NICE, but it GETS RESULTS’ argument, despite all the evidence that this is not the case.

I still disagree…the movie told (supposedly) the story of what brought about the breakthroughs to find Bin Laden that led to his subsequent killing.

As such, the torture scenes were an integral part.

You’re implying that this part of the movie was inaccurate…based on what?

Because torture was an integral part of the hunt for Bin Laden, it didn’t produce useful information that let to him being caught. More often, it led to unreliable or wrong information being produced because the torture victim would say anything to make it stop, and time and resources were then wasted following these unreliable leads up. There’s a vast amount of information etc on this

Torture happened, and the film doesn’t hide that it was awful and morally corrupting, but the film argues that it was useful in spite of that. It wasn’t.

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I think I’ll just agree to disagree with you on this subject.

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