Australian Policies -- from 2025 Federal election

[dingus]

@Bacchusfox

@dingus

He is a cancer.

Seriously if you actually knew this bloke, you would never say this. He is a talent at organisation and reads the room much better than most. He has done a good job and you want to abuse him.

So what are those LNP strategists who brought in the Brethren.

What has he done a good job of?

Spin merchants are damaging to democracy.

How many houses has he built?

What has he done about the cost of groceries?

How has he addressed welfare being miles below the poverty line?

What has he contributed to bringing balance to the Gaza situation?

What has he done to address climate change?

What has he done to cut down on multinational tax avoidance?

I don’t know Dutton either, but he has done exactly the same amount to help the country as your man here.

I don’t give a ■■■■ how smart he is or how affably he damages the country through a plastic smile.

[jonovdp]

@handypoint

How many of the LNP in Queensland will become Nats and how many Libs?

And how many Libs are going to become independents because the party doesn’t fit their ideology?

It’s become every man for themselves on the opposition floor.

[Tezza_the_King]

so I take it you think keeping Dutton and the liberals away from government was a bad thing ?
labor has a renewal target they are implementing
labor didn’t create the housing crisis , they have tried to implement some measures that were blocked by the greens and the liberals
when did a government ever do anything to control grocery prices , what should they have done ?
it’s difficult in real governement to just do everything by the click of a finger especially when you have the liberals and the greens being obstructionist .
the greens have also learned a hard lesson .

as I have said to others in here that are anti Labor. Labor hasnt been the best government but they still did a reasonable job in difficult global conditions .

god help us if the current liberals got in, and the greens will never ever have to run the country so they are in a luxury position to just say they will do everything , because they never will have to do any of it

[dingus]

You lost me pretty early there.

In summary, one of the right wing parties won on a platform of only not effectively fixing a little bit of the problems.

[handypoint]

There’s been a housing crisis for the best part of almost 25 years. Where have you been hiding?

[Tezza_the_King]

who’s been in government for most of that 25 years ?the so called housing crisis has accelerated post covid like everywhere in the world . all governments should have done more over a long period of time

[Tezza_the_King]

sorry if my long winded reply confused you .
no worries I guess it’s easier to throw smartarse jibes when it’s too hard

[handypoint]

@Tezza_the_King

who’s been in government for most of that 25 years ?the so called housing crisis has accelerated post covid like everywhere in the world . all governments should have done more over a long period of time

Sure homes are expensive, but Australia is another level.

We are at the top of every list.

What constitutes a million dollar USD home in Sydney and probably Melbourne.

Well let’s just say you would be hard pressed finding worse value for money in any comparable international city.

Our homes are hot garbage.

[Tezza_the_King]

so what’s that got to do with a Labor strategist who brilliantly kept Dutton and the liberals away from the lodge?
did the liberals have a better strategy on this? ,sorry I think I’ve missed something in between replies here

[handypoint]

You just claimed Labor didn’t create the housing crisis , if there’s proof they didn’t we’ll ok.

They sure as hell have extended it and have had years to do something about it. Multiple governments at all levels.

[handypoint]

I think they will eat each other alive.

And I’m here to watch.

The Libs have a long way back winning back teal seats in the city.

But that’s where they will go….the centre.

I can see the Nats becoming irrelevant. Perhaps a senate party like the greens

[wimmera1]

Worth pointing out that minimum wage in the US is $11.25AUD per hour.

[handypoint]

Minimum wage earners have rarely bought a house in my memory,

Id be looking at the rental market.

Also worth pointing out what 11.65usd is in Aussie dollars

Plus tips

And tax rates(well that’s a bit complicated)

[wimmera1]

No.
Minimum wage in the US is USD7.25/AUD11.25.

Edit: I know housing prices are better in the US, I’m merely pointing out that the appropriate measurement is house price as a multiple of annual wage, not just the price on its own.

The US is better, but not by as much as you’re implying.

[falcon1500]

Go to your doctor and get him to examine you thoroughly.
It’s there somewhere.

[Bacchusfox]

Whatever!

He did a good job and helped win an election.

[davethedon]

Min wage doesn’t just affect who might buy houses, but what some labour costs might be to build em. Also go look up oak or pine board prices in the US. I’ve read some forums on beekeeping where they talk about cost of dressed ‘lumber’ for making hive boxes etc, and was amazed at what a dollar buys…

[Bacchusfox]

Just cannot agree that any Government causes a housing crisis. Sure Government could build more public housing and put taxes up to do it. Only reason house prices keep rising is because buyers just keep bidding. Banks keep lending more and more, and somehow it is a Government fault.

[Scorpio]

And people seemingly refuse (or don’t know how) to work within the system as it exists to get the best results for themselves.
Instead of buying something they can afford as soon as they can afford it, they prefer to wait and continue saving (at a decreasing rate of return) for the unattainable dream.

[Tezza_the_King]

all I said was the Labor party didn’t create the housing crisis which is true because they didn’t , successive governments (some Labor) and global demand and lots of other things including 16 of the last 25 years of liberal government policies has also added to it

which parts of what I am saying is false