Enough ■■■■■ footing around. Time for some very tough love China style justice for all young offenders.
Sod the rehabilitation mentality … bring back extreme punishment
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Smooth, I just read the link that you posted and the one teenager who had the knife and used it has been remanded. There weren’t three kids stabbing people who have been bailed.
The others have been bailed (who didn’t have knives), so while it is a crappy situation it is not like the magistrate let out the kid who did the stabbing.
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You aren’t supposed to read the pesky facts…. just feel the anti-Labor vibe.
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these people don’t want magistrates to have discretion, they want there to be set sentencing for set offences because they perceive discretionary justice as non effective
which basically means they want to abolish the judiciary
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Just read this about the Carlton Mascot. While normally I think that anything to do with Carlton sucks, this time the club seems to have put their mascot into a crappy situation which sucks as well and don’t blame him/her for leaving although maybe the swearing didn’t need to occur.
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Maybe it did.
Jews does not equal Israelis does not equal Zionists.
As the article said, the performer was more than happy to attend a Jewish religious celebration, and rightly indignant when told that it was raising funds for a foreign army with an appalling human rights record.
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Yes I get that. It was a crappy situation that they put their mascot into. Kid’s party is fine but a fund raiser for a war at a kid’s party? WTF?
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There’s a great deal of ick about the whole thing.
I’m location agnostic . its all just straya mate
Surely Albo does know the origin of Joy Division name. It has always been controversial, which was probably why Ian Curtis chose it. I guess most people would not have an idea.
What’s the context, is he visiting Dachau?
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Glad somebody asked the question, perhaps its too oblique for me and you?
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The laws still aren’t tight enough if Magistrates have discretion, and use it.. If you want the Magistrates to have discretion (which you need in the right circumstances of course), how would you propose to address the current situation where lots of criminals are still being allowed back onto the streets even though they’re a threat to society? Jacinta says “Community safety comes first”. How is this achieved if Magistrates have discretion to release serious criminal offenders?
Fixed sentences do not work in every context. Judges and Magistrates need to be wise enough to use their discretion justly to ensure there is no community risk as well. Sometimes they get it wrong as they are not perfect or infallible, that is why the Law provides the appeal process from either side. Prosecuters rarely appeal against sentences in Magristrates Courts and the Cops just sigh and wait to re-arrest the thug who has bashed his wife for the third time.
Maybe we could just dispense with Courts and all those charged are judged and sentenced using AI.
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AI is trained on data about what has happened before.
If you want nothing to change, that is 100% the way to go.
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A while ago, back in the tough on crime days when Labor were not in power in Vic. a friend of my fathers who was a copper working in Ballarat told us that once he transported a crook to a Melbourne jail after arresting him and going to court where the bloke got three months in the pen.
He was duly deposited at the jail in Melbourne and my dad’s mate proceeded to do the paperwork and then drove back to Ballarat where he saw the crook walking down the main street. He stopped and grabbed the bloke and wanted to know how he escaped so quickly, but it turns out the jail was full so he was admitted and then walked through and basically let out the back door having done his time. He walked across the road, stuck out his thumb and hitched a ride and arrived back before the coppers did.
Not sure there is a moral to the story but unless you are prepared to spend a whole lot of extra money on jails, both to build them and run them then probably locking everyone up for everything is a bit unrealistic, especially in the short term before those jails are built.
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Police use discretion too. Our criminal justice system needs flexibility. Parole board releases offenders.
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Not wishing to discredit our boys and girls in blue, but too many police are still selective in their discretion. Factors like age, skin colour and how you dress sometimes determine police response. Old white guys like me get beneficial treatment.
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Yes you do, otherwise you wouldn’t say that.
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