That is one of the crappest Venn diagrams I have seen. Based on your own logic there should be an enormous overlap of greatness in the 1980s-90s

Your descendants, if they’re lucky enough to survive what is very probably coming,
Here’s another thought that has not yet been expressed here or perhaps anywhere else… What if we (as in human society) gets thrown back to a state where we have only pre-industrial age technology? And that is far from the bleakest of predictions of what is possible with runaway greenhouse.
If we do go back to those technology levels, it is unlikely we could ever build up technology again: there is no longer any easily extractable iron for metal works (it used to lie on the ground and easily found back in the day) and there are no longer any easily available fuels for transformation of metals to equipment, at least that are extractable without current day technology. All coal seams that could be worked by hand are exhausted. People will have to go back to subsistence agriculture, huntimg/gathering etc.
Maybe that’s not such a bad thing per se.
Maybe Essendon could even win a final before then.
I don’t live in the GC. Melbourne

we’ve had 40 years of nice and polite and patient, and David Attenborough putting helpful little reminders at the ends of his documentaries. We’ve rallied peacefully in our hundreds of thousands. But the bastards win at every turn and the fkg earth’s climatic system is now circling the drain. And all the talking heads are now finger-wagglingly telling us that, when facing absolutely literal civilisation-ending extinction-level apocalypse, the answer is … to be fkg nice some more?
Perfection.

Maybe that’s not such a bad thing per se.
It’s actually not. Maybe the best thing for the future of our species, and many others on this planet, is that we collapse today instead of making it all so much worse on the current trajectory.
You took me out of context.
Never would dispute anyone’s right to protest, even the rightwing nutters. And in spite of what you think, I am aware of the struggle to get action on climate change.
My point still stands that Government inaction is a reflection of majority will. While the majority may say that climate change is a big problem, the majority are also saying , please don’t affect me with your actions. Protesters are passionate, dedicated and determined, most of us are just pretenders. We are the people who elect Governments.

Take this to the climate change thread. This isn’t relevant to this thread.
Haha. Self described ‘only conservative in the village’ with a thou shalt not classic! The narrowness of the thought passage that bedraggled hamster of a thought had to navigate astounds. “It’s not politics until it directly affects me and mine”.
We’ll get back to house prices and supermarket monopolies as soon as the weather clears, because they are definitely ‘politics’ and not just inevitable outcomes of the precious free market and the actual retreat of govt/politics from those realms. Lawry’s not in the Gold Coast but he is in that thread if you’d like to talk about nice weather?
1971 same year as the Vietnam Moratorium.
Just read Trump is going to be the only Republican nominee, Haley has pulled out.
Trump vs Biden.
That’s a bit like a Farkcarlton vs Norf grand final.
First one was in Melbourne in May 1970. I was at High School but a small group of us were there marching down Bourke St with Jim Cairns. It was massive and probably more like 200,000 people rather than the official police count of 70,000.
It was a very peaceful event and one I will never forget.
The next year at Olympic Park was meant to be peaceful but the State Government, Police and some hardcore CPA members had other ideas.
Under parliamentary privilege Somyurek says he suspects former federal Labor MP Anthony Byrne is the spy ASIO was referring to. Somyurek says Byrne frequently leaked IC information to journos and that he has text messages to prove it. He also claims leaks from the IC are a criminal offence.
Guardian
British American Tobacco makes first donation to Nationals in over a decade amid vaping crackdown
British American Tobacco has publicly donated to an Australian political party for the first time in more than a decade, as the Albanese government prepared to introduce vaping reforms.
The $55,000 donation in the 2022-23 financial year was disclosed by Laneway Assets, the body that collects membership fees for the Nationals, the disclosure return form published by the Australian Electoral Commission (AEC) shows.
It is the largest donation British American Tobacco has made to the party in 20 years.
Labor poised to cap donations and spending after key report released
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The last time British American Tobacco donated to the party was in the 2011 financial year as the federal government prepared to introduce plain-packaging reforms to reduce the appeal of cigarettes and other tobacco products.
The latest donation came as the federal government in 2023 announced the most significant tobacco and vaping control measures in the country in a decade, including reforms targeting the importation and sale of vapes.
A British American Tobacco Australia spokesperson said the donation was made in the form of “an annual membership to engage proactively on solutions to combat the rapidly growing unregulated nicotine market”.
The top-tier, $55,000 “foundation” membership to the party’s national policy forum gives members access to Nationals ministers and politicians at policy events, luncheons and budget dinners.
Tobacco company Philip Morris Limited also donated $75,000 to the Nationals on 10 May 2023, one week after the health minister, Mark Butler, announced the vaping reforms. This is $20,000 more than the amount donated by Philip Morris Limited the year before, and in excess of the $55,000 required for foundation level membership.
It brings the total Philip Morris Limited has given the Nationals since the 1999 financial year to $570,000, of which $304,000 has been donated in the past decade.
Lawry isn’t on the Fc. And we get Labour Day end of April. So there!
Somyurek hates Byrne for ratting him out to IBAC, but Byrne was a bit of a loose cannon so it could be true. It would be ironic though for a rightwing conservative who wanted more defence and US support against potential aggressors to give anything to China.

Lawry isn’t on the Fc. And we get Labour Day end of April. So there!
I believe Foxy is up that way now
It smells of revenge the AS accusation……the texts of Byrne leaking sound more believable - time will tell
Dutton and Ley have created a foolproof what-not-to-do election guide
Rule number one: if you really want to win an election, it’s a good idea to turn up. Take note Peter Dutton. Rule number two: if you do turn up, don’t make a dill of yourself and a nasty one at that. Take note Sussan Ley.
Thanks to their behaviour in the lead-up and aftermath of the Dunkley byelection, the leader and deputy Liberal leader risk being cast as the toxic twins of federal politics.

British American Tobacco has publicly donated to an Australian political party for the first time in more than a decade, as the Albanese government prepared to introduce vaping reforms.
The $55,000 donation in the 2022-23 financial year was disclosed by Laneway Assets, the body that collects membership fees for the Nationals
The Nat’s should fold.
Love a donation fom Fossil Fuel companies and now, Big Tobacco.
Seriously compromised for mine.
John Abernathy
Australia’s $ why is it not going up? stuck at 65-68cc
Inflation has come down
real interest rate come down
Australia fiscal surplus
Gov debt one of lowest in western world
Aus have trade surplus (iron ore) (Previous driver)
Credit rating one of highest in western world
none of that supports the AU $ going up.
70c of every aus $ into super is heading offshore (by fund managers as too mmuch $$ to invest in Aus). Most of the money is heading to US.
Aus savers are supporting the devaluation of Aus $ because we are saving too much and investing too much offshore (don’t have a home for it in aus).