Australian Policies -- from October 2024

You keep saying this.

How have they been abandoned, and what’s working class these days?

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Great day for Victoria

For me conservative values represent strength.

Strong borders and national security
Strong leadership
Tough on crime
Not afraid to make unpopular calls
Strong enough to put citizens first

It also represent moving away from “wokeness” when there are much much more important things to get done.

I feel that my life experiences have very much lead me to a survival of the fittest mentally, only the strong survive, dog eat dog ect.

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Modern “conservatism” has long lost any notion of progressive , organic , internal change - as it is meant to be - and has become entirely regressive, divisionist and backward looking. The ever worsening loss of small L liberals to the movement has gifted more and more control to further and further Right cretins. They literally made a useless flog -who thinks he speaks in tongues and God shows favour with wealth - Prime Minister.

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I think it’s the low / middle income, blue collar working Australian who have been impacted most during the cost of living crisis. I think the governments increased focus over time on virtue signalling and social causes means it has been somewhat distracted from the needs and challenges most impacting lower / middle income workers and families. I think this has in part been brought about by the govt leaking its more progressive votes to The Greens and emerging threats coming from the Teals too…

I think this explains the drop in Labor’s primary vote over the last decade.

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Thanks for sharing.

I don’t particularly like labels but probably sit left of centre and agree with the above. I do think we would differ on the meaning of strength.

I do question the wokeness as I am yet to across a meaningful definition.

I think Australia is at its best bringing the the sum of it’s part into the whole. You seem more inclined to take an individualist view based on your life experience.

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Labor has been very focused on lower working class.

Reworked stage 3rd cuts to benefit lower income workers

Electricity rebates

Minimum wage increases

Improved strength of Medicare and bulk billing

Made longer prescriptions available

Strengthened same work sane pay laws

The liberals opposed all of those initiatives. The stage 3 at a minimum they wanted all the benefits to go to the upper middle class with nothing to the working class.

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I want to live in a country where each person is at the others throat and community consists of teaming up with like minded desperates until they start eyeing off what I’ve managed to get for myself and turn on me. Even though it really doesn’t have to be like that. Guess who else would like that? Rich right wing ■■■■■.

Prior to the last Federal election, Adam Bandt was the lone Green MP in the Reps ( winning his seat from the one held by Tanner until he resigned)
The Greens now have four, three seats In Brisbane. One was won from the sitting ALP member, the other two from sitting Lib members.
The big success was the number of Independents, now 12. IIRC previously there were two (Wilkie in Tasmania and Haines in Victoria).

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How is spending 400 billion dollars of taxpayer money on a nuclear energy program conservative?

I mean this is their flagship policy.

Dutton is off with the fairies if you ask me.

The teals are conservative as, I mean opposite end of say their country cousins the Nats but still conservative.

The liberal party is failing badly at bringing both together.

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You forgot to add
Favouring the rich for tax cuts.
Actively suppressing real wages for 9 years.
Taxing people extra for not having private health insurance.
Cutting funding for government schools.
Pensions not keeping up with inflation.
Robodebt.
And ukelele playing.
Conservative “values”

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Thats a scomo thing, not a conservative thing.

Its life experience that give me that view

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Incorrect. That’s what conservatism has become. He’s the latest symptom of the malaise, not the cause.

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Scomo doesn’t represent conservatism to me.

problem with right wing political christians are they impose their personal moral beliefs on everyone based on their religious ideology .
religious freedoms, was just a way for business and schools to discriminate against lgbtqi , they tried to stop gay marriage, give them half a chance and they would crminilize abortion ,they are obsessed in what people do with their bodies and sexual practices and personal lives .
last election they were obsessed over trans people and had little Johhny Howard and Tony Abbott walking down the street campaing with that nasty pos Katherine Deeves

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it’s hard to find any media commentators or analysts aside from sky after dark loonies who think this is in anyway a good idea . and it’s what dutton wants to die on a hill over .

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The real problem is not enough lions to deal with them!

Oh, I think you’ll find that he does in large measure. And ultimately it’s your party moving in the direction it is , on your watch.

I cannot bring myself to vote for the current Liberal / National parties any more. I can’t accept what they’ve become, and I can’t pretend to only support certain bits whilst ignoring what the rest now is.

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convservative governments that have governed the country since before you were born have been showing those values, so youre values are a thing that dont exist in contemporary australia

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