I wonder how MPs will adapt their pandering once this year’s census data shows that Australia’s biggest religion group is in fact, no religion
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Well Albo sure isn’t winning any of them for Labor, so where do you think the votes are going to go?
We made a point of noting no religion as opposed to catholic (which both MrHeff and I were raised as).
We had our kids baptised for the sake of our catholic family, but drawn the line on anything else. The kids can decide if they want to do their communion et al when they are older.
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Labor will win this election, because @Aceman says so and he is the first Croweater who is mostly correct in my experience.
There was a young bloke I knew who lived there a while ago, who was happy and clever, but he has lost his way.
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Another LNP promise. Luckily they’re pretty bad at actual delivery.
They won’t. There seems to be a disproportionate number of religious types in government, which is all fine, go your hardest. Although I’ve never understand why the split is so different to the society that I witness. Maybe it’s just my circle of friends and family that aren’t religious.
Dux are loving this. Put out socials yesterday about their local expansion plans. Oops.
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A big part of this is the loaded question the ABS asks when conducting the census, the important question being ‘what is the person’s religion?’. It reports affiliation, not whether or not there is a genuine connection to any particular belief system.
Affiliation can mean any number of things - it doesn’t require you hold a genuine belief about that religion, it just questions your connection to any particular one. So you can have families reporting religious affiliation on behalf of the household, or people that may have been baptised, thought nothing of it and then see the Census and think ’ oh well technically I’m Christian so I’ll put that’.
The question also infers that people inherently have a religion, as in it does not ask ‘does the person hold religious beliefs?’. The ABS has been called on to change this repeatedly over the decades, but they refuse because they claim it would be incongruent in historical census data collection to change the method of reporting. Which is of course, buIIshit.
All it ends up doing is painting a false picture of religiosity in Australia, which is great for pumping bulk rort funds into private schools - but does nothing to indicate a genuine idea of the true nature of religious distribution across the country. Not to mention you have various denominations of religions other than Christianity being ignored and not adequately reported after they are lumped into the one heading and not properly acknowledged in the same way.
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Thoughts, @simmo41 ?
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We’re going to be Texas one day, aren’t we? sigh
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ABC reporter embedded in PM campaign team says his church attendance was the first time he had engaged with voters. He attended but did not have a role in the service. So what was his engagement?
He said, now is not the day to talk politics, no Qs.
Reporters bail up Albanese after he leaves Sydney church service.
Because a proportion of religious people want to be in positions of power so they can shape the direction of our country to suit their beliefs, often at the expense of others.
Also, it helps people turn a blind eye to how trashy you might actually be as a human being, that you are part of a group that claims to be better than everyone else. And they can pull the religious card to play the victim.
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Timing…
You sure of that? The Bandit has principles — socialist principles; when he realised that Labor no longer has any, no longer gave a shyt about the light on the hill, and that many of them could think of nothing except to get their snouts into the trough, he resigned and joined the Greens. He took the seat of Melbourne off Labor because the incumbent minister wanted to change his career path and become President of the EFC, but couldn’t bother his barney about ensuring his succession. Since then Adam Bandt has copper-bottomed his position in Melbourne so that a once-safe Labor seat is now a safe Green seat.
There is no reason why this feat cannot be repeated in other Labor seats, and even in some Lieberal seats.
To say that “he will not win any more seats” is just wishful thinking from a longtime aging Labor member who can’t bring himself to recognise that if Labor keeps on its present course, the party he has worked for for his entire life, will be finished, like Monty Python’s ex-parrot.
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“Beautiful plumage…!”
“As beautiful as the forgotten ideals of the Labor Party”
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Massively funded and connected private school churn
What, you mean run a very negative campaign? Ooohahh. That would be bad. No, go for it.
There has been a shift to the right in politics right around the world. Labor simply must move a bit more to the centre apart from core issues and really take it up to the LNP governement, its time they were kicked out fcs. Even people who vote for Scomos government need to have an alternative thats similar but different. We need a regime change . Now.
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Adam Bandt and I have history, when we clashed at a Wind Farm Conference some years ago. His views were more extreme then, in that he stated that any individual affected by wind farm noise was either making it up or mentally incompetent, and the means justified the end, meaning wind farms should be built at any human cost.
My Councils position was supportive of wind farms but we argued that neighbours should have adequate setbacks or be compensated to move. The smirk was wiped off his face when my National Party Councillor colleague asked him about the donations he received from the large multinational wind farm corporations. He could not deny it as we had the evidence. Today, he probably is much better at hiding any of his shifty deals.
I have never been anti-Greens and overall they have a good policy mix, but in my experience they could never be trusted to work with others and did deals with Liberals to suit them politically, not in fact to suit any principles.
I just cannot see Greens getting more votes in any electorate over some independents, Labor or LNP to win. I would have no problem if they took LNP seats. It is regrettable that you will not Vote Labor.
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