I’m some ways, yes.
But it goes to the character of her and the LNP.
Personally, I would always want for these matters to be carried out in the most professional and respectful way, but now, I don’t really care.
I don’t care how low we have to go to get rid of the LNP. Being nice could mean we have another 3 (or more) years of this ■■■■. And it has to come down to each of the seats, and this one is losable for them.
She won by 500 votes last time. It’s one of the most marginal seats in the country. No point talking about high level policies if your ground game can’t win the marginal seats required.
I mean…fine.
But if the strategy is go to the election in an electorate with a large Australian-Chinese component, regardless of where their political leanings may or may not be, with ‘but she’s Chinese*’…
I dunno, man.
Good luck with that.
Standard practice to provide an advance copy, including for translation and distribution.
Got a source for China paying for his trip? I thought it was taxpayer funded, according to MP entitlements to participate in international meetings and for study purposes.
Senator James McGrath and I call BS on sending speeches to foreign countries for approval. Also could Marles actually answer the questions he was asked about carbon credits today. Did you see and hear his response?
No, please relate the important details of Marles response and also the Senators views for the thread
Sorry - do your research as it was in the press today.
You asked, I replied. It would be an interesting addition to the discussion if you brought the details of the two issues you just introduced and asked for responses to.
No it’s not. It’s based on her known connections with the Chinese Communist Party.
That’s not Race — it’s international politics.
Details were posted earlier in the thread and was discussed, as an FYI. It was a poor response by Marles from memory of the discussion.
Okay, already discussed Leon, thanks
Did Marles send it for approval? I have participated in seminars/conferences in China and elsewhere, send an advance copy for translation and distribution. Never sent for approval as such
As I don’t speak or read Chinese, no idea whether the translations and interpretation at the meetings were accurate.
So Deves has fronted SBS about her comments. The first thing out of her mouth?
“I have received death threats, I have had to have the police and the AFP involved,” she told SBS.
“My safety has been threatened. My family are away out of Sydney because I don’t want them to witness what I’m going through nor do I want their safety put at risk.”
im still trying to workout what LB4E’s point is.
deflecting from his teams abject failure of a decade?
When asked to reflect on the controversy caused by her comments Ms Deves said she had been “chastened” by the reaction to them.
“I recognise that trying to prosecute arguments about complex, nuanced and difficult subjects…. it should not take place on a platform that propagates offense and division and hurt,” she said.
"Going forward, I will be conducting myself in a dignified and respectful fashion.
“I recognise that the way I prosecuted those arguments was not conducive to proper, reasonable debate.”
wonder as to the veracity and credibility of said alleged death threats if shes walked it back that much
It’s not international politics, it’s Australian law.
If it’s a thing at all.
And gosh, China have backed a wrong ‘un, right?
A non-minister who won by 500 votes?
And it’s a Very Freakin’ Weird thing for the ALP to run an attack ad on.
And pretend it’s not about that she’s Chinese.
Again. I’m not even arguing whether it’s true or not.
I’m arguing that it’s disproportionate.
And racist.
And stupid.
But wait, there is more…
Speaking at the same media conference, the Coalition’s Senate candidate for Northern Territory Jacinta Price offered a strong defence of Ms Deves.
“Being-pro women is not anti-trans as far as I’m concerned,” she said.
"I’ve been a captain of several AFL football teams here in Central Australia.
“I mean the girls here put on a hard-hit playing AFL, but if you have to be up against a bloke, that’s potentially life threatening”.
Ms Price also equated criticism of Ms Deves with the experience of ethnic minorities.
“Let’s be straight here, she’s from the Northern Beaches in Sydney, she’s a white Australian woman, but if we don’t stand up for someone like her and her position, then the voices of other women — marginalised Indigenous women, voices of ethnic women who deal with their own cultural issues when it comes to patriarchal cultures — they don’t get to have a voice either.”
LOL she is WHITE - we must stand up for her!!!