funny how “do your own research” has swung around to “don’t want to do any research”
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big old question mark
I’ve never seen one. They seem to be relying entirely on the YES campaign doing itself damage.
I just checked the “Fair Australia” campaign site. Design is similar PR site to “yes23” but front page focuses more heavily on black voices (6 plus Tony Abbott):
The Resources page has similar merchandizing to “yes23”. Most of it DOES at least include some sort of slogan in addition to just NO or VOTE NO.
But they DO have “corflutes” (placards) that are just as empty as the YES campaign. Presumably less supporters inclined to display them.
I was contrasting the attitudes of nearly half of those polled here to your own statement:
I would not for one moment suggest that you are either unprejudiced or inclined to agree with anything at all that she says, nor would I assume that you voted in the poll, let alone that you voted for NEITHER.
But you are not so extremely prejudiced as nearly half the people here voting, who smugly proclaimed that Jacinta Price is BOTH stupid and racist and three quarters total who said she was stupid.
I would have expected only the four or so “usual suspects” to actually consciously up front endorse an explicit wording of the stuff they shut down serious discussion with in this thread. But clearly there are more.
BTW in Saturday’s Age Noel Pearson seems to analyse her “political game” much the same way I do:
“What I believe, is the only path forward for the Yes campaign over the next four weeks is to keep pushing a positive message,” Pearson said. “Don’t be distracted by these attempts to chuck controversy bombs into the water to blow up an argument over here that’s got nothing to do with the referendum.”
He said Price’s comments, made in response to a question about colonisation at the National Press Club on Thursday, were “just provocative words”.
“They ought to be taken as, alright, she’s woken up or her advisors have woken up and thought, what is the most annoying thing I could say today to cause a controversy?”
Pearson reiterated his comments about controversies when he attended a gathering of residents and other Yes campaigners at a “yarning table” in a pocket park in the inner-city suburb of Summer Hill where the Indigenous leader had lived during his formative university years.
He urged the gathered throng at the park to focus on the words of the constitutional amendment and not be distracted by “firecrackers” and contrived controversies.
“I urge you all to bring the discussion back to the actual words because that’s what we are voting on,” he said.
“The real business is the words of the amendment. Talk Australians through these words and I’m finding the soft ‘noes’ start listening.”
So I’ll put the question directly to you. Do you think there’s much chance of Noel Pearson persuading YES campaigners not to fall for such easy traps by shrewd political operators and to stop carrying on like those in this thread who you have NOT attempted to dissuade from carrying on the way they do?
i’ll put this to you, do you think your diatribes are convincing anyone to do anything different to what they were planning on doing?
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I don’t know. I am not attempting to stop you from continuing to do what you do, nor the other “usual suspects” as that would obviously be completely futile.
I am seeking to highlight it. Whether others continue to be driven away from this thread or step up remains to be seen.
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Gonna be difficult when I’ve blocked him.
I get enough exposure to delusions of grandeur at work.
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manifesto energy.
At the Grand Final, they have a Welcome to Country from a local indigenous elder.
New poll out tonight with No ahead in every State. Maybe Albo should provide more details of how the Voice would function and people don’t want to pay reparations as a % of GDP forever.
How does an advisory board with no legislative power make that happen?
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It’s in the full document.
It’s mentioned once.
Under Treaty.
Which is a completely different thing, so…do I need to ask the question again?
Page 64 of 183 to be precise.
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leon doesn’t like that one bit wimmo.
Doesn’t seem to…
On Insiders, Mundine said that he favours a treaty, which will be accorded impetus if the No campaign succeeds in the referendum.
I mean….yeah….
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Lol…
Don’t get me wrong…Treaty is not happening.
If recognition doesn’t get up then hell yeah, Indigenous Australians are gonna get more annoyed and litigious and bolshie because White Australia won’t even give them That.
But it’s such a Greens/shoot yourself in the foot take to say we don’t want a voice we want Treaty.
Maybe…maybe…you’ll get Treaty in twenty years if this manages to get through.
There’s bugger-all chance of it happening without this step.
I get where Mundine and Thorpe are coming from, but it’s misguided.
Edit: and Price just wants to be leader of the National Party.
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Another of Scomo’s legacies.
Can’t believe that ■■■■■■■■■ was our PM.
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