Australian Politics -- from June 2023

The growth is real and not at all like a Ponzi scheme.

Of 13 that voted in poll so far large majority of 77% said Jacinta Price is stupid, including 46% who say she is also racist. Only 23% said she is neither.

So I would rate the chances of the YES campaign reversing course and attempting to actually listen to anybody in order to try and change the majority opinion that they don’t and won’t as very low.

Efforts to change course will be swamped in noise like that. As far as I can make out it is not coming from people deliberately intending to discredit the YES campaign here, so there is likely to be similar derailing elsewhere.

Can any of those who actually watched the video imagine attempting to retrain the No canvassers to find out and respond to what people are actually thinking and and saying instead of simply repeating their own quite extreme prejudiced attitudes?

Will leave poll open till Tuesday but close it and report final results if there are no changes on Monday.

There is no WHY option in that poll, so I’m obviously not going to partake.

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You just did :wink:

A close friend has become an Australian citizen. The ceremony included no less than 6 speakers whom each read the acknowledgment of country. Optics rather than respect IMO. Being a Yes voter myself, I would think the emphasis would become what IS needed by virtue of direct discussion with representative voice rather than what is a Left wing wankfest.

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This whole enthusiastic no campaign is the LNP reacting to being done at the last election. They are such partisan twits they need to go against anything the government stands for, regardless of the fact they previously backed this in. These so called polls both surprose me and dont. Who are they polling? Do they publish the metrics or methodoligies of who and how they do these polls?
I very much doubt the numbers are what they seem to be.

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Poot Old wazza tied himself up in knots today on insiders. He’s not real bright is he?

A different, although equally as limited, polling result in Adelaide.

Clearly a bunch of dirty Commies, if you read the rubbish posted against Mike Carlton and Rohan Connolly on Twitter.

Strangely, the COVID cooker crew are unanimously NO too.

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Having said that, I do understand how uncomfortable it is to share the same final opinion as racists and cookers for vastly different reasons.

Not sure what makes you say that. Perhaps the six people were showing respect by acknowledging the original owners of the land where they stood.

Perhaps the most insightful bit of this piece is the following.

ā€œThe Leader of the Opposition, Peter Dutton, who chose to align his parliamentary team with the No vote in what looks very much like a strategy to cause political defeat to Albanese, rather than a matter of national principle, and who has very successfully fostered distrust of the Yes movement ever since, has pointedly avoided placing distance between himself and those campaigners using manipulation through subterfuge.ā€

Such an accurate depiction of Dutton’s involvement. I’ve largely disengaged from this now, the whole situation is just so depressing (but so predictable).

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Once is special. As it should be.

How many times should they say it at the GF? Once per speaker?

Was it just the choice of the speakers? Or were they forced to do it? Not sure there’s a crack force of indigenous folks or social justice warriors going around making people do the thing. In any case 6 speakers is 5 too many, that’s the big issue right there.

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Wotabout those Yes posters, who, according to one poster, are ā€˜ā€¦ simply repeating their own quite extreme prejudiced attitudes’.

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Serious question: is there even a standard ā€œNoā€ logo/poster?

Nah no

I just signed up. You can but stickers, tote bags and pens. Looks like the stopped selling the T-shirts and everything else.

No downloadable materials.

I’m not, have you met Australians?

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