Australian Politics -- from June 2023

Bigallan, that is NOT just confined to Melbourne.

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Hold on, Chilly Boy, not sure I said that young-uns “want” to pay over the odds, but it is not this old Boomers fault that someone wants to pay more and more for a house. That the old weatherboard house that my folks built in 1956 in Pascoe Vale sold for just on a million bucks leaves me scratching my head, and that the ex housing commission dumps in Broadie are going for even more is just bewildering. Even 600 sq m of land are selling for $500,000 in the Marsh, and seriously that is just obscene.

You can blame developers, Government, greedy Boomers, Banks etc, but it is the people who keep paying and paying more and more that make the final decision.

I could be completely altruistic and sell my place for what I think it is worth, but convincing the owners of the place that I want to buy in Palm Cove to do the same when there are others willing to pay another $300,000 may prove difficult even for me.

There was something about not living in Queanbeyan, AKA Struggletown across the border where rentals were much cheaper.

My point is they have no choice. Renting is obscenely expensive, so they are snookered no matter which way they jump. so unless they take the plunge they are facing a life without home ownership, paying someone elses mortgage off

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And yes, our 90’s bought home in Oak Park-127k- is worth a shed load more now.
But that is more the market forces conspiring than people choosing to overpay

Once again Lawry, you follow the LNP media narrative to the full.

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You may need to sit down, but this rape has, from the start been more about politics than the actual rape itself.

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Kate Jenkins 2021 Review of sex discrimination and harassment at Parliament House is relevant. After that some women came out publicly.
Turnbull tried to clean up standards at PH with the bonk ban.

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Those facts are fairly easy to distill @IceTemple . They’re the facts and I don’t think they have been undisputed. If BH or DS come out and say they’re false text messages then that’s another story. The whole thing has a stench to it. The more important points are:

  1. Did Gallagher mislead parliament? A serious offence if true. On face value she seems to have a case to answer. Wong maybe also

  2. It appears our PM and his colleagues used a rape allegation for political purposes ……if true (and it seems this way) then it’s very very grubby and I suspect the average punter won’t like that. Remember this was an allegation made by one of the Labor senators Kimberly Kitching (weaponised rape allegations). It originated from the Labor side not the LNP

Do those two issues not concern you ? I Let’s flip it around ……what if the LNP had used the rape allegations against a labor staffer for political purposes - I suspect there would be more than a little bit of outrage from many on here

Like I said I await the 730 Report and Four Corners Canberra Bubble in depth stories on this

Yes 100% agree……we are now seeing this play out in detail with the many texts and wargaming coming out. The whole thing is an unmitigated mess. Nobody can be proud of what they’ve done - both sides of politics. I guess the story so far has been the LNP tried to cover up an alleged rape (reprehensible and grubby). We’re now seeing and reading that the other side weaponised rape allegations for political gain (reprehensible and grubby). It appears the pendulum is swinging back the other way on this one

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What was the Q by Gallagher in Opposition? What was the timing of her Q and what was the response?
Some facts that might be relevant to forming opinions and judgments.
Listening to David Speers discussing it on ABC radio, he wouldn’t cast the Q as political weaponising, but a reasonable Q when a politician is implicated ( when the Jenkins review had identified misconduct by unnamed politicians).

Well that’s his opinion (Speers) and I respect that. Ultimately it’s the Australian public that’ll make up their own minds on this. The weaponising accusation came from Kimberly Kitching - it was from inside Labor. It’s easy to see that Labor used a rape allegation for political purposes. Likewise it’s easy to see how the LNP tried to cover up a rape allegation for political purposes.

What about rape allegations against a Labor MP ? You have a selective memory Bill !!

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Are you referring to the former Opposition Leader ? My recollection at the time was that Abbott and the LNP were very restrained in their criticism ?

At the time, our local MP was asked about this event at a Branch meeting. She was not happy to talk about it, as she said that it was important not to politicise the matter and that the Morrison Government had many issues about treatment of women to work through. One of her Staffers present, who happens to be a Branch Member did relay the information that the alleged perpetrator had previous allegations of misconduct and harassment of females in Parliament House and that he was known to be a sleazebag.

The sad part of this, is that the only way Higgins was going to get this investigated was to go to the press, which she always knew would kill her career in politics. Once again the Victim was blamed and her mental health suffered. No winners here, except as always the Press got a story.

Your recollection is poor.

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Please enlighten me @Bacchusfox. There certainly wasn’t the press pile on like the CP situation- again if I’m wrong on that front you’ll let me know I’m sure

Rachelle Miller was more politically savvy in the settlement involving Tudge, she refused to have a non disclosure clause.
And it was the friends of Kate that exposed the inaction of authorities in combination to investigate Porter.
Facts brought to the attention of the public so that they could make their own judgments.
Some reluctance of those prejudging to come forward with the facts on which they have formed their opinions.
As to Kitching, is it relevant that she had a falling out with Senators on her side and was removed from a Committee?

Strange standards when certain Tory MPs had “liaisons” in the prayer room.

It’s super relevant- she was allegedly removed from the committee because of the weaponised accusations she made