BSD always considers all the information, carefully assesses it, and then believes what the ALP tells him to believe.
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I just added more
Thatās not fair, I have seen him be pragmatic on refugee laws contrary to the party position before.
So apparently nothing got passed today.
Youāve lost me buddy,ā¦ Iāve never been near an Apple product or Itunes. 
Never will.
Does this only effect Apple folk btw, ā¦ is that what youāre saying here? If so, ā¦ all good.
no, pretty much every device in the country that accesses the internet
You keep saying this, but you donāt say how.
Corrupted Aplle dudes posting it on the Dark web for bucks? How?
But mine will be no more vulnerable than it is now,ā¦ right?
I donāt have whattsapp. Facebook etc on my phone,ā¦ so I wonāt have any backdoors, right?
Do you only care about how it affects you specifically? Thatās somewhat strange
And if you want the nitty gritty explained to you, why donāt you go read the submissions to the Senate Inquiry? They are all public. Including one from the encryption company that provides services to almost all arms of the Federal government (Senetas) which is screaming that the current legislation is unworkable and makes everyone less safe.
And now for a bit of champagne comedy from the Libs; (cropped article from the ABC website)
As the surviving Liberals entered Parliament today, many offered analysis of what went wrong during the campaign, but Mr Guy avoided questions about the election loss, saying it was a matter for the new leader.
Upper House MP Bernie Finn said the campaign was ādisgracefulā because it failed to properly communicate with voters.
He also lashed out at criticism from Labor about the lack of women in Liberal ranks.
āIf the Labor Party and the Greens want to have more women in the Liberal Party, what they should have done is not defeated them, that would have been a very good thing if they hadnāt run against our women,ā Mr Finn said.
I have no words. Plonkers.
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BSD is your classic one-eyed Lim Dem voter 
How much tech security stuff have you read?
Do ALP press release count?
From Kasperskyās submission
āSpecifically, in case of encryption there is a broad industry agreement that a third party
access to encryption keys weakens encryption for all users, including those not targeted by
the encryption agency. This argument has been explored in more details by the Citizen Lab
and the Canadian Internet Policy and Public Interest Clinic (CIPPIC) reporti and in our view it
is applicable to other technologies.ā
Best-practise security is two factor. You generate a code key, then split it apart into what is called a key-pair - two separate code keys that are mathematically intertwined. You give one to your partner and keep one for yourself. When sending a message, your partner will encrypt their data with their half of the pair, then you will decrypt it with yours. But (and this is important) you cannot decrypt data with the key used to encrypt it. No, I donāt understand the maths behind this either, but thatās how it works, functionally.
The accessor and the accessed have to match. So that means you canāt have continually randomly generated keys (leaving aside the question of how ārandomā these things can be from a mathematical & computational point of view), because your key at one end wonāt correspond with the key at the other end.
And of course, if the key is NOT randomly generated, and youāre relying on deterministic generation (hereās a hint - donāt do this ever if you want a vaguely secure code), anyone can tear apart the software on a phone to find out the key-generation function and crack it, and then reverse-engineer its counterpart. In order to function, both parts of the keypair must be generated TOGETHER.
Nope. The thing is that even apple doesnāt have access to the stuff that the cops want, itās encrypted out of their view as well (especially if itās in a third-party transient message app like snapchat, that deliberately doesnāt store its own message history). What the govt is proposing is that they should be allowed to get a court order to force Apple to code a weakness in their own security (which will apply to EVERYONE, not just the target) so that the cops can exploit this weakness to monitor the targetās communications.
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It doesnāt happen. Not even Tim Cook himself can access it. Itās not how the code works, if it did itās violating the terms of service. Apple would go from the most profitable company in the world to broke over night.
Iāll explain it another way.
Everyone remembers the fappening, that happened not because the encryption of icloud got hacked, but because the hackers where able to reverse engineer the victims passwords with small pieces of personal information.
An encryption key is called a cipher and encrypting a file only generates one cipher. If you where to encrypt a file in such a way to generate more than one cipher it more than halves the decryption integrity. Currently for an encryption to be hacked it only needs a 1/12 weakening to be deciphered. Halfing it makes it 1995 level of vulnerable.
I hope that makes sense
The cops arenāt going to be going to snapchat to order them to install a backdoor. Theyāre going to go to apple (or whoever) and get them to put the backdoor in the OS level so they can monitor every obscure app you might ever want to use. So the compromised security will apply to everything on your phone, from your email to your internet backing app. And to everything on everyone elseās phone too.
Correct, except that the ātargetsā donāt even use that software, they use their own bespoke messaging software that they design, as a general rule.
So actually, the changes will apply to everyone except the persons whom the legislation is supposedly targeting. Genius
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Aus Industry group basically agree
https://www.aph.gov.au/DocumentStore.ashx?id=380bde7a-b4e5-4f35-9217-85207381a140&subId=660760
Actually, all of the submissions basically say the same thing
Thereās 105 of them
Knock yourself out:
The bill is very careful to include language saying they donāt want a backdoor. They just want something that looks, acts and sounds like a backdoor. Politician weaselwank. And bad policy.
A bit, but Iāve watched more. Plenty of Docos on the subject, and every ep of Viceās Cyberwar theyāve shown.
At any rate, no one here knows enough to give straight factual informed answers to questions Iāve raised, so Iām guessing they know as little as I do.
How will hackers access this backdoor?, would seem a fairly relevant and simple question for those worried about this to answer if they had any idea how encryption, and backdoors actually worked.