Australian Politics, Mark II

I am biased about Norm Gallagher. He saved me from a massive beating from a bunch of Groupers when I was a teenager.

As Albert suggests the BLF in Victoria did a lot to save many city building from the wrecking ball in the 1960’s and 1970’s.

Wonder how it works if he instead factors in Murfochs Newspoll results which basically say the exact opposite thing today re: Budget bounce, … (Surprise surprise :roll_eyes: )

Newspoll: 52-48 to Labor; Ipsos: 53-47 to Labor

Newspoll and Ipsos offer very mixed signals on the question of whether the government has enjoyed a rarely sighted “budget bounce”.

Two post-budget polls are in – Newspoll from The Australian, Ipsos for Nine Newspapers – and they offer contrasting pictures as to whether support for the government has gone up or down in the wake of last week’s budget.

Newspoll produces an encouraging result for the Coalition in showing Labor’s two-party lead at 52-48, rather than 54-46. Ordinarily I would point out that a two-point movement from Newspoll is a rare occurrence, which close observers of the polling industry suspect is down to Newspoll smoothing its numbers with some variety of rolling average, in which the results of the previous poll are combined with those of the latest. However, the last Newspoll was, very unusually, four weeks ago, the delay being down to the New South Wales election a fortnight ago and a desire to hold off until the budget last week. So it would not surprise me if things were different this time, and the result was drawn entirely from this week’s survey, which will have been conducted from Thursday to Sunday.

The report currently up on The Australian’s website is a bit sketchy, but it tells us the Coalition is up two on the primary vote to 38% and Labor is down two to 37%, with One Nation down one to 6%. Scott Morrison’s approval rating is up three to 46% and Bill Shorten’s is up one to 37%, but there is no word yet on disapproval ratings, preferred prime minister, the Greens primary vote and the sample size. The report also rates the budget has scored the highest since the last Howard government budget in 2007 on impact on personal circumstances and cost of living. Stay tuned for further detail.

UPDATE: The Greens primary vote is steady at 9%; Morrison is down two on disapproval to 43%; Shorten is steady on disapproval at 51%; Morrison’s lead as preferred prime minister is out from 43-36 to 46-35.

The post-budget Ipsos poll for Nine Newspapers, which is the first since mid-February, records an actual deterioration for the Coalition on the last since last time, albeit that that was an anomalously strong result for the Coalition (the one that had The Australian proclaiming “Morrison’s Tampa moment” across its front page headline). The two-party headline in the poll is 53-47 in favour of Labor, compared with 51-49 last time, which I’m guessing applies to both respondent-allocated and two-party preferred preference measures since the reports don’t specify. Ipsos’s primary votes are as usual on the low side for the major parties and well on the high side for the Greens: the Coalition are down a point to 37%, Labor is steady on 34% and the Greens are steady on 13%. If it might be thought odd that such small primary vote movement should produce a two-point shift on two-party preferred, it would appear that rounding favoured the Coalition last time and Labor this time.

On the budget, the poll finds 38% expecting they would be better off and 24% saying worse off, which is around the same as last year. Forty-one per cent thought it fair and 29% unfair. Leadership ratings are, as usual, more favourable from Ipsos than other pollsters, but otherwise notable in recording increased uncommitted ratings across the board. Scott Morrison records 48% approval and 38% disapproval, both down one from last time; Bill Shorten is is down four on approval to 36% and one on disapproval to 51%; and Morrison’s lead as preferred prime minister shifts from 48-38 to 46-35.

Reports on the poll, possibly paywalled, can be found at the Sydney Morning Herald and the Financial Review. The poll was conducted Wednesday to Saturday from a sample of 1200.

Yes according to the screechy, buxom former model turned weather girl turned anchor, the Australian commissioned exclusive Newspoll represents a huge boost to the Coalition in the lead up to the election campaign which isn’t happening yet but kind of is, or at least it feels like it and is costing a lot of money. Thanks Virgin Lounge for takin that eeeezy money and inflicting right wing censorious glam news on all of your customers. Oh and the new piped and looped Muzak is not at all sanity shredding.

#firstworldflogroms

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The UFU is a great Union that makes sure that it’s Members are safe, well-trained and well paid for a very important job. You call them militant, but I cannot recall these blokes ever going on strike.

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All these polls show is that about 47% of voters are farking idiots

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My sister is a Member of the Liberal Party; and while she is not a loony extreme right-winger, is typically of the Liberal Members who live in wealth in Toorak like her.

She quotes the Liberal line that they are a Party who believes in giving opportunity for people to help themselves by creating a capitalist paradise based on the myth that if you work hard then riches will absolutely follow. When I argue with her that some people need support and “self-help” is not an option for them, she continues the mantra that everyone has opportunity under the Liberal ideology, and that welfare should only be provided with a cashless card.

She works for a number of charities (along with many of the Toorak socialites), helping older people, abused women and poor families. While I applaud her for this, she cannot see the irony, that these people who need her charity exist under her ideology.

I’ve always thought it’s about half of that to 30% of the Electorate that are idiots and get Murfoched.

The other half of the Lib voters know exactly what they are doing,… it’s just that they’re all greedy selfish prickz.

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I have to agree you with you there but I think there are plenty of ardent Liberal supporters who believe this current mob stink.

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I agree generally, but Marshall’s behaviour worries me at times. A lot of guys at our cricket/footy club joined MFB in the 80’s. One of them is now brigade chief for the whole city.

My next door neighbour reckons the CFA should be divided in two…don’t let the volunteers who work on bushfires work on town fires. He’s seen buildings burn due to incompetence.

If Morrison does not call the election this week, Wong could do some damage in Senate Budget Estimates, scheduled to run till 12 April.

Yep Marshall is a hardman, but he does good for his Members and that is his job.

Our Town is service by the local CFA; they are all volunteers and a very professional bunch. We have about 10,000 homes in the area they service and the average response time to a fire is under 10 minutes from when the phone is rung. They seem very well trained and have not heard any complaints.

No doubt the culture between MFB and CFA needs a bit of work. Reckon there is a degree of pig-headedness on both sides.

Tricky barstard wants to suck up a week of Taxpayer funds for Campaigning first. While Labor has to use it’s own, … as mentioned in this article.

It’s a long one, but will post because of some interesting, and some totally mind boggling results in the YouGov Galaxy poll.

Shorten to PM: No more ‘games’ bring the election on

Claire Bickers, National Political Reporter, News Corp Australia Network

8-11 minutes

Bill Shorten has said Labor is ready for whenever Scott Morrison calls the election as voters wait to find out exactly when they will have to go to the polls. Australians could find out as early as Sunday the date they will have to cast their vote.

The prime minister’s most likely options are May 11 and 18, but May 25 and June 1 are also possibilities if the Australian Electoral Commission is granted extra funding to expedite counting, ABC election analyst Antony Green says.

Mr Shorten told reporters in Launceston “the government had given up governing” and that Labor was ready for the poll.

“If the prime minister wants to play games about when he calls the election, I’m just not interested,” the opposition leader said.

Responding to speculation about the election date announcement, senior Liberal MP Paul Fletcher told Sky News: “There’s only one person who knows when the election will be called, that’s the prime minister.” “It’s his judgement, it’s his discretion,” he said.

Coalition election strategists and staff have begun arriving at their campaign headquarters in Brisbane while Labor staffers are setting up their base in Parramatta in western Sydney.

A delayed election announcement would advantage the government by stretching out their access to taxpayer funds for campaigning while starving Labor of these entitlements.

Mr Morrison will on Saturday attend an NRL match tonight between his beloved Cronulla Sharks and the Parramatta Eels at ANZ stadium.

He told 2GB he was planning to go to his local church in Sydney on Sunday. Asked if he would later go to Canberra to announce the poll, he said “oh, we’ll see”.

Australian voters believe Bill Shorten is “untrustworthy” above all other character traits, while Scott Morrison is seen as “well-intentioned” but “smug” and “arrogant”.

It comes as an exclusive YouGov Galaxy poll conducted for News Corp Australia reveals people trust Pauline Hanson more than the Opposition leader.

Despite these findings, the poll, conducted before this week’s Budget announcements tipped Labor to win the election.

The study also showed voters overwhelmingly don’t back Labor’s negative gearing changes or ‘retiree tax’ and think asylum seeker boats are more likely to restart under a Labor government.

Scott Morrison was seen as “well-intentioned” by 34 per cent of voters.

But Australians also viewed the Prime Minister as “smug” (31 per cent), “arrogant” (31 per cent) and “untrustworthy” (30 per cent).

Mr Shorten was rated “untrustworthy” by 34 per cent of voters.

That’s slightly higher than One Nation leader Pauline Hanson, who was ranked “untrustworthy” by 33 per cent — although her key characteristic was seen as “dangerous” by 38 per cent of voters.

Voters also saw Mr Shorten as “well-intentioned” (30 per cent), “arrogant” (30 per cent), “smug” (29 per cent) and “useless” (26 per cent).

The Opposition leader was more likely to be seen as well-intentioned by voters in his home state of Victoria (33 per cent) than untrustworthy (31 per cent).

But Queensland voters were the reverse, with 39 per cent ranking him untrustworthy compared to 31 per cent who backed him as well-intentioned.

Businessman Clive Palmer, who has poured millions into a political campaign without confirming if he will run, was also described as “untrustworthy” by 49 per cent of respondents and “arrogant” by 46 per cent.

Australians don’t seem to be swayed by their distrust of Mr Shorten.

Every age bracket from 18 to 64 was more likely to vote for the ALP than the Coalition.

That’s despite the fact that 41 per cent of Aussies also think asylum seeker boat arrivals will restart under Labor, compared to just 32 per cent who don’t and 27 per cent who don’t know.

Baby Boomers were more likely to think the boats would restart (44 per cent), than Millennials who were more likely to believe they wouldn’t restart (38-32 per cent).

A whopping 74 per cent of all voters didn’t back Labor’s plan to axe tax refunds for franking credits and 65 per cent didn’t support the party’s negative gearing changes.

Despite this, older voters are the only age bracket sticking by the Coalition.

More than one in three Australians in every single age bracket except aged 65 plus said they would vote for the ALP above the Coalition. Picture: iStock

Nearly half of Australians aged 65 and over said they would vote for the current government compared to just 28 per cent who want Labor.

The exclusive Australia Speaks survey reveals the Coalition is on track for an election bloodbath and could lose at least 15 seats.

Labor leads the Coalition 53 per cent to 47 per cent on a two-party preferred basis, according to the poll of 2224 Australians across the country from March 25 to 28.

The dramatic leadership spill to oust Malcolm Turnbull last year will be one of the factors that costs the government, the survey shows.

Twenty-eight per cent of respondents said they would be more likely to vote for a Coalition led by Mr Turnbull, while just 20 per cent said they preferred Mr Morrison.

Most Aussies will consider the spill when casting their vote, with less than half (43 per cent) saying it wouldn’t impact their decision.

The survey also shows voters will abandon the major parties in droves.

More than one in four people (28 per cent) say they will vote for a minor party.

Older voters were the only age bracket sticking by the Coalition. Picture: Supplied

Half those voters say it’s because they are “frustrated” with the major parties, while 45 per cent like the policies of minor parties.

Voters rank the Labor Party’s performance in opposition roughly the same as the Coalition’s in government, showing they probably don’t see changing government as a risk.

Thirty per cent said the Coalition was competent, 22 per cent ranked its performance as “poor”, 17 per cent said it was effective, 14 per cent said it was “terrible” and five per cent thought it was “excellent”. The remaining 11 per cent were undecided.

Just six per cent said the Labor Party’s performance had been “excellent”, 27 per cent said it was competent, 16 per cent said it was effective, 27 per cent thought it was “poor” and 16 per cent thought it was “terrible”.

GEN Y STILL UNDECIDED

Millennials are Australia’s biggest swingers this election with a whopping 37 per cent undecided on where they’ll cast their vote.

Both Bill Shorten and Scott Morrison will need to deliver a strong pitch to the nation’s almost five million Gen Y voters, who could help tip the outcome when Australia goes to the polls in May.

The YouGov Galaxy poll also reveals 27 per cent of small business owners and retirees have no idea who they’ll vote for yet.

More than a quarter (28 per cent) of young families haven’t made up their minds.

And one in four of voters in the bush — traditionally Coalition heartland — aren’t convinced by either major party’s platform yet.

Large sections of renters (34 per cent) and homeowners (28 per cent) are also undecided.

Large sections of renters and homeowner don’t know who they will vote for.

The sizeable swing vote across the nation will give the Coalition — which has suffered 50 consecutive Newspoll losses in a row — a fighting chance to win hearts and minds during what could be a five, six or seven-week campaign.

As it stands, Millennials are slightly more likely to back the Coalition (21 per cent), than Labor (19 per cent).

Sixteen per cent of young voters said they would vote Greens.

Only slightly more than a quarter (27 per cent) of regional voters back the Coalition, but just 18 per cent back Labor, indicating many could look to minor parties.

A third of young families in the poll said they would vote Labor, which is pitching hard to that demographic, compared to 25 per cent for the Coalition.

Small business owners were much more likely to vote for the current government (37 per cent).

Just 23 per cent said they would back Labor.

A third of retirees and homeowners said they would vote for the Coalition, which is pushing hard with a scare campaign about Labor’s plans to axe tax refunds for franking credits.

The government is calling the plan Labor’s “retiree tax”.

Nevertheless, about one in four from these groups will vote Labor.

Many Millenials understand the preference vote, and know if they vote Greens = a Labor Government. They also don’t trust the right-wing faction of the Labor party.

These Media puppets need to stop with this idea that Millenials don’t know what they’re
doing. Millenials are an extremely informed generation and the most educated generation that’s ever been.

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I do find that interesting/confusing as, apart from internal party squabbles, I don’t see anything un-Liberal about the current Liberal government.
Why are Liberal people saying, ‘Liberal, yes, but not this current mob.’
I can’t see any difference at all.

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Didn’t see a single reference to the environment or climate change policies in that article. I would think that is higher on the “important things that will affect my vote” for the younger voters than the usual “boats and terrorism” squealing.

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It’s NewsCorp crap, the whole article was ‘slanted’ toward the Libs

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Probably means the influence of the hard conservatives that are pretty keen for the “broad church” of the Liberal party to be not-so-broad, but still very churchy.

It really was eh? I couldn’t believe what I was reading. :roll_eyes:

I only found it, as the “curious poll” was mentioned on the bludger and linked, and I don’t know why this didn’t show up in the post, but check out the pics of ScuMo and the Blandman side by side, … Scum fully lit, … and Shorten in darkened shadow and looking sinister.

(I’ll have to snip it, still won’t post, …Check out the captions u/neath, I PML … :laughing:. )

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I’m flabbergasted they are still using such transparent bullshit, but they must think it still works.

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Littleproud is dribbling out a range of climate change related projects in regional areas, including community consultations. Seems they have learnt some lessons from the Nats losses in NSW - that farmers and others in rural areas might care about climate change. He is even going to consult indigenous groups!