Ben Rutten - Back to the grindstone (Part 2)

I’d disagree. We have had a ‘great’ month because we have, once again, abandoned Trucks plan and we are just playing natural football.

Same pattern every year… just this year we left it too late to ‘turn off’ the BS game plan and go back to our style.

I think Rutten has saved his job which just means more pain for us next season. Diabolically bad system that he continues to try and implement… four years in a row it has failed.

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I think you are completely wrong. I don’t think he’s changed the game plan. That’s opinion so we’ll never agree.

What’s fact, is he’s the coach and we’ve won 3 of 4 and he’s coached well and the teams played well.

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Gee, another Truck Bad post from you.
Enjoy the farking win.
Or at least wait 24 hours.

Using Caldwell head to head with Neale was a ripper move. And showed up Neale’s lack of defensive efforts.
Heppell on the wing using his positioning is also a win win - really shown when Ham came on and we had someone who tried to play “natural” football, instead of using the system.
The two rucks was also good. If only to leave 2LP forward all game.

Edit; four years in a row it has failed.
Waiting for you to claim all our failures since 2010 are Trucks fault next.

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we should make a list of blitz suggestions that ultimately prove to work out.

how many on here over the last few years (even the back end of worsfold) asked for a tag of sorts, merely even just a tight run with role ?
fair few.

Finally tries it and and someone who normally doesn’t care about using lube while he bends us over has little to no impact, funny that.

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Your post reminded me of coming across some comments by Dees supporters before the 2021 season started, so I went back and found some of them. I’m not suggesting that it’s a sign that Rutten’s gonna lead us to a flag next season, nor that you wouldn’t find similar comments about coaches who end up sacked before the bye. In fact, I don’t really know what I’m trying to suggest. Perhaps just that being certain doesn’t make you right.

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Can’t help but wonder what Clarkson could get out of this current list.

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Players Rutten has improved and who have gone onto take that huge next step:

  • Parish
  • Wright
  • Redman

These players are displaying all australian level form.

Then you have the good honest players who have displayed their best under Rutten:

  • Laverde
  • Hind
  • Guelfi

We need more improvements from lot of the others and some young guns to take some huge strides for the remainder of the season (and beyond).

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Tony Armstrong on ABC news just said that Rutten has just had a contract extension.

Is this correct? Or is it another situation of the club not communicating unpopular decisions to the members?

Well we’ve won 3 out of 4. It’s the “Dev Smith” kind of decision the club would make.

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He might have been confused with Brett Ratten’s extension

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Brett Rutten. Make it happen

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Sorry, but Rutten has completely changed the game plan over the past month in the following ways that include, but not necessarily limited to:

  1. Ending the horrific “high defensive press” where our HB backline pressed as high as our F50 regardless of where there HF opponents were at. We saw it in the Carlton game and it raised its ugly head in the Eagles game. We beat the Saints, Swans & Lions by specifically not doing this.

  2. Team structure: Rutten has realised you can’t play both Kelly and Heppell in the back 6. Too slow. D’Ambrosio came at the right time and has seen Heppell move to the wing. Also, Rutten realises McGrath is a naturally good small defender. Also, that Hinds plays his best football by running past for the handball. We have gone to never wanting to handball in defence after a mark to always looking for a handball for run and carry. Moving the ball quickly by handball and run has seen us average almost exactly 100 points a game for the past 4 weeks for a 3-1 result versus averaging almost exactly 50 points a game, under the previous style, for a 0-4 result in that 4 week block.

  3. Respecting the opposition’s best player - witness Caldwell on Neale from the start versus what happened in Round 2 when Neale single-handedly took the game away from us.

  4. Picking a contested ball player in Hobbs on a HF flank over Ham. Ham and/or Cutler, the two worst contested ball players on our list, were regulars…not any more. You can see how poor Ham is in his Q4 against the Lions. Tom Hird or a Menzies would have given us more. The end result is we have won contested ball for 4 games straight - something I can’t ever recall us doing in a long time.

Perhaps Rutten got read the riot act. Perhaps he started accepting feedback. Perhaps he realised himself he had to change what was failing. Regardless, I am grateful that these changes have been made but I wouldn’t be extending him just yet.

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Maybe he read your posts.

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Yep there is a heap of them

  • play a shut down role on their best mid
  • Zerk over Stewart
  • McGrath back
  • play 2 rucks
  • get the balance in the midfield right
  • Langford is a good forward.

Blitz has been ahead of the coaches this year for sure.

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you’ll trigger @WindsockBoy and @Tyler with this, even though its clear as day we’ve changed the way we play

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I think there is a middle ground between the high press, and Worsfold’s defensive game plan of, conceding the length the ground and only defending from D50.

You need to create repeat entries to become a top 4 side. Under Worsfold we just retreated to defensive 50 and had no intent on stopping the opposition going coast to coast. In fact this was the only way we got the ball back.

Yesterday looked similar to Worsfold’s game plan. Where all the players just run back to defensive 50 to defend.

These types of wins are sugar hits, but that game style won’t win finals or premierships. It’s a very short sighted game plan.

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It’s happening again. Late season junk time wins painting over the cracks. We just beat Brisbane’s reserves. Turn it up.

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Saying this kind of diminishes your overall point, which may be accurate.

I for one welcomes our new game plan.

Even if it doesn’t hold up in finals?