Ben Rutten - Back to the grindstone (Part 2)

We need to be more concerned on retaining players again

I agree, but as a coach of juniors, if you don’t have the cattle to be strong in the midfield, your structure will always be overrun and look like there’s no effort as your defenders end up cooked by half time, no matter how fit they are.

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Players simply choosing to play in their terms, they aren’t giving their all.

It mental with Essendon, all of our players can play much much better and it’s now at the point of a spreading cancer within the club and it’s out of control.

He’s a soft coach.

If it were me I would have ripped them a new one after the game my eyes would have been red.

I would show the group Parker’s taunt and tell them this is what the competition thinks about us soft a laughing stock.

I would then show the tackle stat and tell them if you don’t want to tackle or defend both ways then don’t come monday pack you ā– ā– ā– ā–  and leave

He needs to be ruthless Rutten

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Except that last year for long patches we were not like this. We tackled a lot, added a lot of pressure and kept the opposition mostly to lower scores.

Mostly the same players, so something has changed.

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Mahoney hasn’t got a clue. He was a cancer at Melbourne who the players and some coaching staff couldn’t wait to see the back of. Yet Xavier knows everything Campbell thought he would be a great appointment.

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Really worries me if Clarkeson, Ross Lyon and Buckley are the standouts of potential coaches.
Clarkeson yes but he will go to gcs or maybe tassie… if one of the other 2 took over as Ess coach i would tear up my membership!
Lyon has had no success over many years… and has a big ? over his character. Buckley also no success as player or coach and made dreadful decisions on player management and was sacked. Dont understand why anyone would want them.
Hopefully there are better options out there!

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Ross took an average Freo team to a GF.

Bucks got Pies into a GF in 2018 and were unlucky not to win it imo.

Just because they didn’t win a flag doesn’t mean that they are no good

Both coaches know what it takes to get there

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Standing by for a Fogdog announcement-

Don’t make plans D. Hardwick 2023

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One thing is for certain, our performances on the road would greatly improve under Buckley, heck we might even make the GF or at least multiple finals wins for the first time in 20 years.

I wouldnt be averse to Buckley. Despised him as a player and bloke his entire career, though for some reason I actually think he’d do well 2nd time round coaching, away from Collingwood.

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Bullshit.

On the back of Cox playing a blinder. Fluke.

You can’t fluke your way to a GF

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Hope you aren’t holding your breath waiting.

There is zero chance of that happening.

I have no idea what this year’s goals are compared to last year.

And whether we have added a whole new layer of things to our game plan that has stuffed up the good bits from last year.

The coaches and players know what has been done for this year and they need to assess that - that’s if any of this is accurate.

But if last year was about trying to learn to walk, and this year we went from walking to sprinting then it’s best we go back to getting our walking being as solid as can be first.

Looking at our how we play I don’t know what any of our traits (brand they call it…) are meant to be.
fast run and carry
hard tackling
one on one
whatever

There’s not one (good) stand out feature of what we are meant to be at the moment.

So, I suggest we pick one or two keep attributes and make that our focus for the next few weeks. Regardless of win or lose on the scoreboard.

Tackling would be a good one to start with. Make unrelenting tackling our focus at training and in games. We don’t let up and we pressure the opposition 100% of the time.

I’m sure they are talking as a group but it feels like it’s always based on hoping something will click. Coaches need to move the group beyond this situation and make it a viable and consistent mindset.

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Not Shiel though, and he’d make a difference to our side because he’s better both offensively (he can actually kick goals) and defensively.

I hope we are going after him again.

Weird theory, and im giving too much credit to them in posing it.

But is Rutten openly going after the senior players to expose the rot he’s seen. Put it on them, then keep playing them and using it as a catalyst of change. Given most are saga or trade-ins and have special conditions attached from X or something like that. He hang them out to dry, offloads them and start a rebuild from scratch starting from the Cox, Reid, Perkins draft onwards?

No I written it, couldn’t be it.

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LOL.

It certainly wasn’t a fluke.

I’d be happy if Essendon supporters didn’t turn up for the game. Players don’t, so the ā– ā– ā– ā–  should we!

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Changes need to be made at the top (Board, CEO) before any coaching change is considered.

I don’t think Rutten is a good coach, but the issues run deeper.

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I would love to believe that. But the fact that he keeps selecting them for games shows that he either doesn’t think there is a problem or doesn’t have the stones to actually upset a few ego’s

Look how he ā€œdroppedā€ Shiel.