Ben Rutten - Back to the grindstone (Part 2)

Luke Sayers took over and they got Brian Cook. Liddell and LaGuidoce gone.

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They brought in Brian Cook who was CEO at WC from 1990 -1998, then went to Geelong as CEO between 1998 and 2021. I think he knows what it takes to make a club great.

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I doubt we’ll get Clarkson. So if not him … who? Respect to Truck because I still want him to pull through. But if not …

Who?

that was going to happen anyway… :man_facepalming:

Club success rarely occurs on the back of a head coach appointment alone.

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What do you mean? Sayers taking over was, Liddle being replaced by Cook wasn’t. I think Diesel also went onto the board as a football focussed member.

Still has led to a significant shift at FC, Cook replacing Liddle has been enormous for them.

No idea. Honestly, no idea.
I tend to think that the playing group is at least still reasonably well connected to the coach. I don’t think that relationship is fractured, albeit that it’s clearly not very cohesive in results on field. I think the trust remains, just, and the players by and large still want to play for him, even if they don’t really know how to do it at the moment.

I expect they’ll persist with Rutten to the end of next year (is that the end of his contract?), giving him the opportunity to leverage his connection with the players to try and turn it around. His battle isn’t just finding the right method or delivery of it, it’s about engendering self confidence and resilience a group who is either devoid of it or so fragile as to lose it completely at even the slightest challenge. It’s not going to be an easy job.

It may be easier to just sack him and try and find somebody else, but the easiest option is rarely the best…

Being connected to the players is all well and good. Until that connection isn’t a winning one. It just propogates failure as seems the case in our situation. If we keep falling we’ve two positions to address before end of season at Tulla.

  1. A new CEO
  2. A new Head Coach

As @Clone_Hirdy says its not just the coach. And I can see that at EFC. But imho the coach is about 80% of it. Even those of us who’ve played a bit sense that. The game hasn’t changed that much and whilst player buy in is huge sometimes as is the case with our Bombers today we need a catalyst for on field improvement.

Ross is my man. But Truck please not make it so.

Nah from what I understand cook was pegged prior to the review. I don’t know how effective the review was in comparison to list injuries and soft fixture though…

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Nothing spells good culture like Ross Lyon, who even our biggest nemesis rejected

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Whether via a review or not isn’t relevant, the fact is they went after Cook and sacked Liddle. They also have a relative new list manager and a new president. They underwent a massive upheaval, not just the coach.

They have had a soft draw, but they have certainly had their share of injuries.

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Time to sound out Brendan Bolton?

I reckon. Bring in Malthouse as an assistant while we’re at it

Jerry Gee? No thanks.

Yep.

Montagna was on radio recently talking about the Noble spray and apology.

Lyon gave many a spray but why it was accepted is they had trust and faith that he had their backs. That he was in their corner regardless.

Which as a very young player that Noble apparently caused issue with wouldn’t have been there yet.

Whilst Lyon is tough his players still loved him. The notion he’s just a drill sergeant is wrong.

You’d certainly get someone absolute in his desire to get a flag if had him.

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Full contact, full ground, match sim at training today. Bring your mouth guards etc.

Seriously - if so, why has it taken to now to finally do so.

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Because it’s not necessarily a good thing.

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When we lose this Saturday night “Yeah look, we’ve been undertaking a heavy training load so a few of our boys were quite sore tonight”

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When players get injured in contact drills……’sack Murphy, sack Rutten!’

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