Lack of progress or at least some progress?
It’s been 3 years I haven’t seen Enough and the Massimo and Voss debacles also are front of mind.
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“It’s a question for the Club to answer”
Yeah and CEO Vozzo said finals was a hope, we started well and injuries got in the way. It’s quite clear what the club thinks if people actually listen to the words they vomit out.
Finals next year?? aye ayyyyeee???
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and ?
surely you’re not this obtuse to the situation.
surely you see the difference between a choice and decision to go down a certain path and plan for it, have contingencies for it etc etc, is vastly different to what this season was.
case in point when melbourne and carlton were sitting down the bottom of the ladder to rort the system, it didn’t work right, why ?
because they were ■■■■ for ■■■■■ sake, and just expected a whole bunch of talented kids to thrive in a poor standard environment ?
What some of us wanted, was to bottoming out to be an active choice and decision, for there to be a plan for it, to have a high bar on certain non negotiables, and to have a non rigid coach and coaching panel to help protect the incoming new players who were obviously going to be less skilled by default, less composed and less physically developed with a better plan of attack across multiple facets of the game.
what we got a half baked plan, mostly due to injuries and the shitshow snowballing, and then we end up right down the bottom cos of it.
ending up bottom for be accident, doesn’t fill most people on here with confidence, that the club and or scott has learnt anything from this, will make better choices and decisions moving forward, or that much will change, in the areas it’s most needed, beyond this year, because it wasn’t an active choice, it will be seen as an aberration , and not a true reflection of where the club is, and without that honest self reflection, you can’t acknowledge the need for change.
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Can we get this corporate plant out and bring on the rolling for a messiah?
So this counts for bullying?
I guess if you follow the definition of bullying, seek to harm, intimidate or coerce then yes it does.
ridiculing players for working harder to stop them doing it so they don’t look bad fits it to a tee.
we often bemoan that our young players have one good year and don’t develop, well there’s half your answer having senior players do that nonsense instead of embracing it is the problem
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Obviously, it’s everybody else’s fault except the plant’s.
The BS PR team is working overtime. Some of the fan run podcasts are now unbearably sycophantic in their never ending support to this loser.
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I’m not a fan of Scott as coach but my reading of that was he was saying in general the extra work Tsatas was putting in was not something that was ridiculed at any club at the highest level in this day and age. The journalist then runs with it and makes the leap that he was referring to EFC before he got there. If there was more to what Scott said then I stand corrected but then why would the journo not include it to illustrate their thesis. I assume it’s a hit job that will get more clicks.
If it was true then we are much worse than we thought. If it was Scott making ■■■■ up as an excuse then he’s slandering his predecessors and feathering his first few years in case it all goes to ■■■■. Which it has.
Scotty doesn’t know
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We entered the year with one of the youngest lists in the league, made no effort to bolster depth despite having draft assets and salary cap space and were widely tipped to finish exactly where we are. It doesn’t seem like an accident. I don’t think media comments from Vozzo are a gotcha. I also don’t think the coaching selection is necessarily the big reveal as any coach is going to play the players they think will win them games.
You make sweeping statements about 15 blokes that weren’t playing that day.
Of the 7 that did though, the bulk are making the same mistakes and the same half arsed efforts they were back then. Some of these blokes should absolutely be trade bait
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Essendon always take the easy way
That’s the problem.
Not the coach. Not disco, not Rutten, not woosh, not X.
We go through a few hard weeks and sack the coach and have to start again.
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I couldn’t disagree with this more. You lost me at 5-8 year rebuild. A timeline that long is impossible in AFL football. In that time about 90% of your players will be gone, most if not all of the coaching staff, and a lot of administrators as well.
The only way to start improving this club is to start now. Today. Scott should have started on Day 1, but you could argue he hasn’t really started yet. Stability is not the most important thing. Establishing standards and culture are the most important things, and both those things can be begun immediately. But under Scott our standards have gone down and our culture has got worse. The team is not fit enough, the players are kept in the team even if their skills repeatedly let them down, the club mollycoddles the players so that they don’t train hard enough and in the games they don’t run hard enough. Scott needs to go and be replaced by someone who understands those things and does not tolerate inadequate skills or a slack culture.
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Mean while you listen to Brady and the other leaders around at the start of the run for the Pats, you were bullied for not working hard enough.
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The often forgotten definition of bullying is excluding someone.
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And he has rewarded Tsatas for putting so much extra effort in by completely mismanaging him
Classic Brad Scott
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He was definitely talking about essendon as in the original article this is another bit about it.
He said skipper Zach Merrett, Andy McGrath and Kyle Langford were among the players who set the standards required at the start of his coaching tenure.
“But they were the minority rather than the majority,” Scott said. “That’s where it feels different. That’s the norm now. It’s not the exception, right across the board.”
Asked how this change could be measured, a frank Scott said: “The work that Elijah Tsatas puts into his program, over and above what is baseline standard for an AFL player, that is now celebrated not ridiculed.”
Cheers. So by implication, if you believe Scott, there was a majority of EFC players effectively ridiculing or ignoring the practices of our leadership group. And our leadership group was so weak it couldn’t bring others along with it until Brad arrived and showed them how. I guess Martin’s off season stuff wasn’t on his radar either.
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