Brazil, Bolsonaro & The Amazon


#1

This is sickening.
What a looming great tragedy.

“It’s a shame that the Brazilian cavalry wasn’t as efficient as the Americans, who exterminated their Indians,” he once said. If he enacts his campaign promises, the first peoples of Brazil face catastrophe; in some cases, genocide.

‘Bolsonaro thinks “Indians smell, are uneducated and don’t speak our language”, and that “the recognition of indigenous land is an obstacle to agribusiness”. He declares that he will reduce or abolish Amazonian indigenous reserves and has vowed on several occasions: “If I become president, there will not be one centimetre more of indigenous land.” He recently corrected himself, declaring that he meant not one millimetre.’


#2

This is appalling. He has previously stated that the Brazilian civil war didn’t kill enough people. It’s really sad what is happening in Brazil, Turkey and the Phillipines. Aside from the suffering endured by the people, it’s destroying important industries (trade, tourism etc) that will cripple these countries for years.
And the rise of the autocrat continues. Unfortunately for the disenchanted, disenfranchised masses that vote these leaders in they don’t actually stand for the people that elect them. The Trumps, Dutertes and Bolsonaros of the world are democratically elected but act in their own self-serving way, but spew whatever rhetoric is required to gain support.


#3

Very sad.


#4

This is a tragedy in the making. The Amazon forests, the lungs of the globe, are even more at risk today. What the heck is going on?


#5

Reminds me of a couple of things.
First is the film Look Who’s Back, particularly the last scene.
It really is very good.

And also something I read a long time ago suggesting that perhaps the world should pay some sort of tax to Brazil.

Oh, yeah. We farked our rainforests and massacred our indigineous people, but you can’t do that.
Brazil: O rly?


#6

He may do a little damage while he is there, but he will not last long. Brazilian people are just fed up with crime, violence, cronyism, large scale corruption and theft by Officials.

Our Politicians are Saints compared to anything in Brazil. I love visiting the place, but fark it is a dangerous place to be. East LA and probably Syria is more appealing in terms of personal safety.

They need a moderate cleanskin who has large amount of courage and determination.


#7

Eesh, I wish I had your optimism.
I don’t see it like that at all.


#8

Have many friends in the a Philippines and plenty love Duterte and would happily vote for him again. As a regular visitor there aswell it definitely feels safer in Manila but who knows if it is just an illusion or not. 5 years ago there is no way on Earth I’d walk around Manila at night on my own, the last few visits I’ve felt very comfortable going for a late night stroll


#9

It’s interesting isn’t it. I work with about 20 people from the Phillipines. It’s about a 50% split of those I’ve spoken to about how they feel about him. I concede that those who do support him really love him. His war on drugs is a bit of a sham though. And has created a scenario where people can kill somebody they have a grudge against and label them a drug dealer. Also he has condoned some pretty horrendous behaviour by military personnel;


#10

That’s pretty much it.
Cult of personality with someone to blame.
‘Oh, he goes too far, but someone had to say it.’
Then people have their…gosh, it’s too early in the morning for this…their ideologies linked to the leader no matter what he says or does.
And then he becomes at best a king and at worst (hi, NK, hi) a god.


#11

The major issue with leaders like this is that when they are removed it can create a power vacuum that gets filled by someone equally awful. The crime in Brazil is horrendous as is the corruption. I’ve met Brazilians who don’t want to go home.
Unfortunately there is a wave of people voting for the loudest, angriest voice all over the world. And those loud, angry voices are mostly charlatans who won’t solve the problems of the people who vote them in.


#12

Good luck getting this guy out of office, not the kind to meekly accept defeat and prison


#13

Bolton praises Bolsonaro while declaring ‘troika of tyranny’ in Latin America

Bolton hailed Brazilian president-elect a ‘positive sign’ as he announced new sanctions against Venezuela and Cuba

Julian Borger

John Bolton has welcomed Brazil’s far-right president-elect Jair Bolsonaro as a “positive sign” for Latin America as he hailed a new ally against what Bolton called a “troika of tyranny”: Cuba, Venezuela and Nicaragua.

In a speech in Miami on Thursday, the US national security adviser announced new sanctions against Venezuela and Cuba, including a ban on US citizens taking part in trade in Venezuelan gold. Bolton also added over two dozen entities owned or controlled by the Cuban military and intelligence services to a sanctions blacklist.

Bolton was speaking a few days before midterm elections in which the diaspora from Cuba and other Latin American states represent an important part of the Florida electorate.

As the Trump administration has done in the Middle East, Bolton drew a clear line between friends and foes, and used bellicose language likely to stoke growing fears in Latin America that Washington could recruit rightwing governments in Brazil and Colombia to take military action against Venezuela.

“The recent elections of like-minded leaders in key countries, including Ivan Duque in Colombia, and last weekend Jair Bolsonaro in Brazil, are positive signs for the future of the region, and demonstrate a growing regional commitment to free-market principles, and open, transparent, and accountable governance,” Bolton said in his speech at Miami-Dade College.

He did not address widespread concerns about Bolsonaro’s stated admiration for Brazil’s 21-year military dictatorship and its use of torture, and portrayed repression in Latin America as an exclusively communist phenomenon.

“[T]oday, in this hemisphere, we are also confronted once again with the destructive forces of oppression, socialism and totalitarianism” Bolton said.

“Under this administration, we will no longer appease dictators and despots near our shores in this hemisphere. We will not reward firing squads, torturers, and murderers … The troika of tyranny in this hemisphere – Cuba, Venezuela and Nicaragua – has finally met its match.”

The collapse of the Venezuelan economy – largely as a result of the incompetence, corruption and repression of the Maduro regime – has triggered an exodus of more than 2 million people into neighbouring countries, precipitating a regional crisis.

In Nicaragua, hundreds of people have been killed in a brutal crackdown on protests against the country’s leader, Daniel Ortega. In Cuba, although Raúl Castro has stepped down as president and reforms have been announced, the island remains in the firm grip of the communist party.

As well as referring to the three countries as the “troika of tyranny”, Bolton called them a “triangle of terror stretching from Havana to Caracas to Managua”, rhetorical devices echoing George W Bush’s “axis of evil”.

He accused the three countries of being “the cause of immense human suffering, the impetus of enormous regional instability, and the genesis of a sordid cradle of communism in the western hemisphere”.

However, on the same day, the Trump administration’s relative isolation was highlighted at the UN general assembly, which overwhelmingly adopted its 27th annual resolution calling for an end to the US economic embargo on Cuba. The US mission tried unsuccessfully to amend the text of the resolution to put pressure on Cuba to improve its human rights record.

The speech was delivered among rising tensions in Latin America. Earlier this week, Colombia’s foreign minister, Carlos Holmes Trujillo, denied reports in the Brazilian press that Colombia was conspiring with Bolsonaro to use force to topple Venezuela’s leader, Nicolás Maduro. In his speech, Bolton only referred to the use of sanctions against the three governments.

Bolton’s cold war rhetoric also came at the height of a hard-fought congressional election campaign that could ultimately determine the fate of Trump’s presidency. A day before Bolton’s trip to Miami, it was reported that the administration was considering allowing Cuban Americans to use US courts to sue foreign companies which control property in Cuba seized from exiles by the government in Havana.

“This was more a ‘transparent triumvirate of electorates’ from Nicaragua, Venezuela and Cuba,” said Christopher Sabatini, a Columbia University professor and expert on the region. “It is no coincidence that this speech is being made where there are tight races for governor and for Congress. It is just another example of how our policy in the hemisphere is driven by local politics, and it’s sad.”


#14

Bolsonaro on record as saying he wishes the genocide of the Amazon Indians had been perpetrated as effectively as that conducted upon the American Indians. Not quite as swift and comprehensive apparently. Couple of MCG’s a day in deforestation to grow Macca’s potatoes and soy to feed chickens and pigs in torture lots so fat ■■■■■ can have their burgers and nuggets. The blurst of times.


#15

The same Brazil which, when the Earth Summit on the environment was going belly up, showed outstanding leadership in securing the Rio Declaration


#16

That’s because all over the world, those very people have been shat on by the political establishment for decades and have decided (correctly) that the ruling class is their enemy and will run into the arms of anybody who they perceive as being the enemy of that class and willing to tear it down.

It’s the main reason why the U.S has Trump;
It’s a big part of why the U.K voted for Brexit;
It’s a big part of why far-right, even extremist parties are gaining traction in Eastern Europe.


#17

Seriously, fark the U.S.

They’re doing the same thing to Latin America as they did with the ME. The CIA have their ■■■■■■ hands all over Latin America.


#18

Yep. People vote right when they are disullusioned, not that I think Trump and Brexit are bad personally, but Bolsonaro seems a bit next level. The mainstream media can ■■■■■ and whinge about populism all they like, but they are siding with the elitists who make people vote this way. Why would you continue the status quo if it clearly doesn’t work? You’ve got nothing to lose when you’ve got nothing to start with anyway.


#19

They also reamed Libya and have basically left the Mediterranean countries, which are already in a shambles to deal with the problem. That’s why Italians voted anti-establishment. BBC and CNN just want to pretend this isn’t true, as it was their establishment darlings (H Clinton and Obama) who effectively did this, so they just call all these people (mostly working-class) racists.


#20

And Trump attacks ‘the establishment’ how exactly?