College football thread

Boooooooo

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wow.
Didn’t think that both FSU and Georgia would miss out.
Seems like the committee decided that they had to have an SEC team in the CFP.

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Gutted ……but still very happy with our development and progress. We need to pinch a quality QB in the transfer portal for next year …….Go Noles !!

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They put in Texas and Alabama. Oh dear.

FSU and Georgia now get to play each other in the Orange Bowl. We shall call it the Jilted Bowl.

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Pfft, they shoulda won more games if they wanted to make the top 4.

Honestly, that’s so very farked.

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They should have more than four but I think 12 is too many.

Regardless of what happens, the first team left out is always gonna be upset.

It really is. Coach Norvell has brought this program back to national significance. FSU is back and if QB Jordan Travis didn’t break his ankle three weeks ago I believe they would have made the final championship playoff ……I’m gutted but excited at the same time

They’ve been through so much.
To do that to them after a faultless season isn’t just wrong, it’s cruel.

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It’s an absolute joke but nothing can be done about it. Just reload, smash Georgia with our second string QB and send them a message.

To be fair, at least this game is while I’m on leave so there is a silver lining!

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I would love to go to the Orange Bowl ……Mrs Lawry says no and baby due in April

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Yeah it’d be amazing to go to that game. You could always go next year. I took my son to Doak as a 5month old. He slept through the whole game.

I’d always wanted to go to the Orange Bowl as a kid. I never did, but I did go to the Fiesta Bowl once, and it was a pretty good one.

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So I have pretty much zero understanding of College football, but listening to some podcasts over the last day, the amount of mental gymnastics that the commentators do to justify leaving out the undefeated Florida is quite amazing, but also quite telling of the motivations of the College system.

I keep hearing repeated"it’s not meant to be the 4 most deserving teams it’s meant to be the best".

So apparently the vibe is more important than the record.

At least they are honest that this isn’t a sports competition I guess.

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It’s always been a popularity contest.
Hell, it was far worse before there was a CFP system. It’s marginally better now, perhaps we’ve been lucky in the last 4 years that there really hasn’t been too much dispute who the best 4 teams were.
Expanding the playoffs will help, but any system where there’s a dozen or so divisions with 100+ teams is going to be difficult to adjudicate which are the most worthy teams.

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now it’s become political.

Even former President Donald Trump weighed in, posting on Truth Social that FSU was “treated very badly by the committee” and then added “really bad lobbying effort. … Let’s blame DeSanctimonious.”

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It’s a messed up system but it can be hard to judge. Essentially they weight who your oppostion is. If your team plays and beats
an opponent from a “weak” conference, you don’t score much from that. While another team may play the “better” conferences and so they are weighted higher and receive more fairy dust points.

Then the media and specially selected few make the decision on how to rank you based on all these weird formulas.

At least that’s how I understand it in it’s basic form.

The section on the bowls though is really messed up.

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But it seems Florida got marked down for winning with their 3rd string QB and a dominant defence because it wouldn’t translate well. So that’s nothing about quality of opponents or anything it’s a complete “the vibe is that you won’t be as good in the upcoming games as the others because you have a key injury”.

That’s pretty ###d up from a general “sports” vibe.

It’s ok if they just accept it’s WWE.

(Of course I have no idea, but far out, every other sport in the world “you don’t win games ‘on paper’”. In college football you do.)

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yeah it is really messy and basically the “finals” are by invitation, not necessarily merit.

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The popularity of college grid stems from the fact that it predates the NFL by 3-4 decades, so it was essentially the highest standard of the sport played until after WW1 when the NFL was founded, and even then the NFL did not really catch on as a nationwide phenomenon until the advent of television.

In the early days there were no playoffs or championships because the number of schools and the lack of organisation around scheduling made it difficult to detemine who the best team was, so they decided having people vote on it was a good way to do it. First it was football media, and then later they detemined the coaches should have a say as well, so they had concurrent surveys going.

Bowl games were established as exhibitions. The name itself comes from the Rose Bowl stadium. Originally there were a small number of them, played exclusively in warm weather locales and expressed by invitation only; unless you were one of the top 5 or 10 teams each year, you stayed home.

At the same time, because it was still an “amateur” medium made up of studen athletes, there was no desire to subject the schools to multiple rounds of playoffs at the conclusion of the season as it interfered with studies, especially during the holiday period which often coincided with the end of semester and final exams.

The need for a “true” national champion only really came about during the TV era and the controversy really began to kick up. You went from 10 bowl games to 20 to 30 to however the hell many there are now, and IMO they’ve lost all their meaning. The other problem that happens was the conferences started making deals and you began to get situations like in the 90s where a Big 10 / Pac 10 HAD to play in the Rose Bowl while the SEC was locked to the Sugar, the Big 8 the Orange, and 1 v 2 matchups became rare. Hence you began to see split titles.

As a Nebraska fan it was frustrating having to play Miami on their home field every other year whilst never being able to get a shot at the Michigans or Penn States.

Then you had the Bowl Alliance and the BCS and all that nonsense which were attempts to make a title game work within the bowl framework, but it was also a failure as well.

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