COVID-19 Round 16 - A Percentage of Lies

So they fear breaking a religious convention.

They might fear becoming an outsider to their friends and family.

They might fear getting stuck in a 3 hour queue at the vaccine hub.

Can’t convince someone to change their mind if you don’t understand what’s driving them. Just because we think their reasoning is stupid, doesn’t mean that it isn’t real to them.

And I want to be extremely clear. Anti-vax is indefensible, but if I was to attack an anti-vax person with the full force of my feeling on the issue, it would end in a fight and they’d never change their mind. So if you want to get them to change, you need to come at it from a different angle.

You don’t know that. You’re making an assumption on behalf of every single religious person.

There are plenty of people that follow doctrine because that is their worldview, not because they ‘fear’ what will happen if they don’t subscribe to it.

‘Might’ is the keyword here.

I don’t disagree with you generally. But my point is, that not every anti-vaxxer position stems from fear. Plenty of it is ideological.

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Gladys says…

1405 cases
6 deaths

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Ok, I’ve used the word fear overly broadly.

Point is, you can’t change someone’s mind unless you understand what’s at the core of their resistance.

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It’s all relative

Gladys marketing herself again

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Fear/pain/confusion/doubt/hurt/deception/belief, there is always an underlying reason why people make certain choices and decisions in their life. Trying to force them to change based on your own (plural) or societies overall standard is not an easy thing to do.

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So what she’s saying is ‘do your own research but you better ■■■■■■■ come up with the same answer as me’

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When someone says ‘do your own research’ these days, that’s basically always what they’re saying.

I thought it meant, ‘I’m not going to post my sources in public for pretty obvious reasons.’

I don’t know how to positively address the concerns some of the anti vaxxers have raised me with (mixture of some colleagues and friends).

How can I positively address these concerns

  • there’s a tracking chip in the vaccine.
  • this is a plan created by the free masons.
  • this is linked to the 5G roll out.

Totally agree. I also feel that many contrarian views espoused by the antivax crowd are simply that.

Most antivaxers are cowards. They have no conviction in their views which is why they won’t defend their position rationally.

This is why I’m a big proponent of ‘no jab no pay’ schemes. Throw a few pineapples in their face and their values crumple like tissue paper.

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Come join us! 324!

There’s cumulatively now 25k active covid cases in NSW. It’s never going away from Sydney

It’s only scary if they are still able to breed.

There’s tracking chips in your phones

We live in Australia

5G waves are non-ionising and don’t interact with the human body

Yeah.

Changing your mind on something comes at a personal price.

Science prides itself on reviewing the latest data. But it often doesn’t work. Most big changes in scientific thinking come when all the old scientists with the old beliefs die and the young ones run with the new ideas.

You know what I tell them?

ESTERMAN FACE

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For family members and friends who are down the antivax rabbit hole, the softly, softly process is a good option, or just set boundaries and not talk about it with them if they are completely set.

It’s like dealing with people entrapped in a cult.

For those on the fence, good options are to talk about their concerns, act to deescalate situations and through questions guide their thinking.

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Kerry says Commonwealth has brought forward doses for NSW.
What Hunt claimed to be a to a special earlier deal for Victoria

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