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THEY HAVE PEAKED.
IT’S OVER*.
*may not be true.
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I am not surprised that some have concerns about the newer RNA vaccines when you consider there is no data for possible long term affects 20 or 30 years in the future, especially if you had the option of an inactivated virus vaccine or a non- replicating viral vector vaccine.
Is there no data because there may not be any effects in 20-30 years time?
Well, the short term effects of getting covid are pretty ■■■■, so we have that to compare to.
We have no idea if there will be any long term effects, hence why some be cautious, whereas the inactivated virus or non-replicating viral vector have been around for years - Obviously there are no short term effects, from the RNA vaccine or any vaccine, except for the odd death.
Chris can discuss this at more length.
The long term side effect thing has been brought up constantly over this journey. It’s something that from gut feel logic makes sense.
Here’s the thing. No vaccine, of all the basically countless medicines over the past 60 odd years, not one has had a side effect that arose beyond 6 months.
And the covid vaccines, the vaccines with by far the largest and closest monitored rollout in human history, no side effect has appeared beyond the first few months.
For this specific vaccine to have long term effects that appear decades down the track, it needs to do something that absolutely nothing in medical history has done.
So from a risk perspective, you’re comparing something that has never ever happened in history against a real life risk that we can see with our very own eyes.
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This is my understanding also from what I had read earlier in the year.
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Why are Greeks refusing the needle ?
Religion mainly.
Really, all the Greeks I know are Catholic, and Catholics love needles.
Really? Most Greeks are orthodox.
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Really, I haven’t meet one Catholic Greek, pretty much all Orthodox.
Em, is it something that might be coming from the church leaders or just scared older people?
Edit:- I meant more individual priests
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I think the former. The official line from the religious leaders is to get vaxxed but it’s not the reality is what I’m hearing.
From a mate with Croatian family, apparently a lot of the older generation Croatians are refusing the shot as well. Just based on generalised skepticism of government mandates dating back to when they were living under communism.
How older Greeks are refusing it after what happened at St Basils boggles my mind, I have to admit.
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I don’t get it either. Between St Basils and what has gone down and is going down again in Greece, boggles the mind.
Greece is basically the only country in the world where the left is more against covid restrictions than the right.
There’s something fairly unique about the political / religious / cultural dynamics in Greece. I don’t know what exactly, but it’s definitely an outlier.
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italians greeks same thing to the old fox
There were no Greek Orthodox Churches apart from one in South Melbourne when I was a kid, and our Catholic School was full of Greek kids. And later when I lived in Ascot Vale, we helped start a Greek ALP Branch and they all went to local Catholic Church.
Probably different in Adelaide.
no, greeks sent their kids to schools the believed best, which oddly enough meant schools that were funded for by the catholic church. wooowww
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