COVID-19 Round 18 - Dan Dictates you must get back to doing the things you love

I have a friend who was born without tastebuds. Can basically eat anything without fear but hates mushy food because of how it feels in the mouth. His thought is you can’t miss what you never had but at least he has his sight and hearing and is otherwise perfectly healthy. To taste a lovely wine or just smell the sea air on a fresh morning is something you should cherish. I would be devastated to lose that.

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NZ only 149 – which is still a fortnightly increase. Maybe it’s not over?

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That is a poor response. It seems like you are avoiding a perfectly, reasonable question which has been discussed at different times in this thread. Finally my question is specifically about the RNA vacccines not about the two other types of vaccines.

What is so deluded about a perfectly reasonable question, which is not an opinion, to discuss an important question in the whole COVID debate, one which is currently causing grief throughout the world, as evidenced by protests throughout the world and Government’s grappling with different policies.

You didn’t ask a question. You essentially said “yeah we have no idea about long term side effects and Chris can confirm this with more details”.

It’s not his job to pander to your loaded statements.

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Thanks for your well thought out reply - Short time side effects can always be an issue, though I’ve been lucky to avoid them with my two shots, hopefully I’m third time lucky next month when I have my booster - For your information, HK is strongly recommending Pfizer, instead of Sinovac for a booster shot.

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Yep all the older Greeks and Serbians I know are the same.
It’s all a conspiracy

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Glu provided a well-thought response to the question - It’s ironic that the person who rants and raves in every thread, accuses me of asking a loaded question.

That’s not what irony is champ

Its interesting that the Greek Orthodox archdiocese both here and in Greece is saying go get the vaccine but there doesn’t seem to be a rebuke for individual priests that are saying don’t get vaccinated. My old man went to a wake at the church on Victoria Pde and in his sermon at the end told everybody vehemently to go get the vaccine for health reasons, religion has nothing to do with it.

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To be fair, we have no direct proof that Fark Carlton won’t win the next thirty premierships.

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True, but I’m not buying into it or ruling it out until Chris tells me more.

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Please let COVID strike me down long before that happens :rofl:

I’m also unwilling to comment on anything which even slightly predicates itself on the mere thought of FARK CARLTON success.

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Poor response yet again.

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This was an expensive post for me, because just even the thought of such a thing has caused some major triggering and interventions will now be required.

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If the issue of concern is ‘long term effect on humans’ then the quoted statement is not true. Animal tests don’t provide any reliable estimates of long term risks to humans because humans are fundamentally different to test animals and the lived environment is fundamentally different to a lab. Only testing on humans over the long term can provide estimates of possible impacts on humans over the long term.

Every technology we can think of - starting with fire - once it has been released for widespread human consumption over the long term, then we get some data on long term impacts and not prior. Even in this case with human health, the long term data has so much noise from the many factors that effect us, the causal factors are very difficult to isolate.

My interest is in consumer awareness of the risks of the products they consume. I think the statement above for accuracy should be replaced with a question - what evidence is there that this [insert product] poses a risk to the public?

Yes, I didn’t actually say “on humans”, so I should put a caveat on that, and obviously human biology is different in many regards. However, if animal testing never translated to effects on humans, it would serve no purpose whatsoever, so it has at least some value. Possibly even quite a bit of value.

There were no long term red flags before we started using mRNA on humans, so we have at least some confidence that there isn’t a known risk, insofar as we are able to test prior to human use. It isn’t without risk, but it’s a lot better than what many believe, that we’re just using the world’s population as guinea pigs with no idea what will happen.

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After several beverages at 2.00am Saturday morning I went up to a couple of the dimwits protesting at parliament. One said they had contracted a permanent stutter from taking Pfizer and believe their speech is going to be impared long term (they were a clear methead), another was utterly convinced that the isolation facility in Greensvale was a concentration camp where Dan Andrews would take you, gas you and then incinerate you. My body wasnt ready for a big night and I ended up puking at their feet, they asked if I had a big night, but I just told them the vomiting was as a result of speaking to them, I dont think they understood that to be an insult. Strangely enough they offered me a bottle of water and some mints. Cops thought the whole thing was pretty funny. Was a bizzare night, thought Id share.

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