Here's hoping Jackets cut a deal with Woosh that if we went full vanilla at the national draft he was allowed to load up on sprinkles in the rookie draft.
Out of interest… What Aboriginal players were picked up by wc when JW was coach.
A quick search gives me the following: Sampi, Jamie Bennell, Cockie, Josh Hill, Newman, Weedon, Wellingham, Oakley-Nicholls, Papertalk.
The bloke who Woosha smashed in the clubs tie trial a few years ago?
Here's hoping Jackets cut a deal with Woosh that if we went full vanilla at the national draft he was allowed to load up on sprinkles in the rookie draft.
Out of interest… What Aboriginal players were picked up by wc when JW was coach.
A quick search gives me the following: Sampi, Jamie Bennell, Cockie, Josh Hill, Newman, Weedon, Wellingham, Oakley-Nicholls, Papertalk.
The bloke who Woosha smashed in the clubs tie trial a few years ago?
Didn't they need to "match points" and that was the deterrent?
They would have gone into deficit for next year and apparently didnt want to do that.
They wouldn’t have. The bid on Mutch was worth 395 points which would require a points match of 198 points (there is a fixed discount of 197 points after pick 18). GWS’ next pick was 54, which is worth 220 points, so they could have matched without going into defecit. Ditto the subsequent bid on Macreadie which they also didn’t match (could have matched 47 bid with pick 58). They then took an academy player with pick 54 anyway (Tiziani). I’d suggest it’s just a reflection of their internal rankings of list need/ability of their academy players.
out of curiosity, i start to wonder how much barracking for a club will have an effect on who clubs pick going forward.
Just say there were 5 decent kids who could go no.1, would you pick the one who barracked for us even if you thought another player might be slightly better or fit a specific need better ?
I donno if mcgrath did barrack for us or not, just curious how much clubs will rate this factor going forward from now on, knowing players are just leaving willy nilly when they feel like it.
Didn't they need to "match points" and that was the deterrent?
They would have gone into deficit for next year and apparently didnt want to do that.
They wouldn’t have. The bid on Mutch was worth 395 points which would require a points match of 198 points (there is a fixed discount of 197 points after pick 18).
Probably weighed it up and decided, on balance, that this was a bit Mutch.
out of curiosity, i start to wonder how much barracking for a club will have an effect on who clubs pick going forward.
Just say there were 5 decent kids who could go no.1, would you pick the one who barracked for us even if you thought another player might be slightly better or fit a specific need better ?
I donno if mcgrath did barrack for us or not, just curious how much clubs will rate this factor going forward from now on, knowing players are just leaving willy nilly when they feel like it.
I think McGrath was Saints and Setterfield Essendon so in this case no (although McGrath was super impressed when he toured Tulla)
I don't think anyone has any problems with Humble Minion's methods and explanations.
Benfti looks at the world through very different glasses.
And at the risk of being called a…
Shane Yarran (just charged with aggravated assault)
Yestin Eades (delisted after 1 season after showing lack of application/professionalism)
Jarred Pickett (former pick 4 in 2014 draft - traded for scraps)
Jarrod Garlett (former pick 15 in 2014 draft - walked away from AFL)
Dayle Garlett (jailed for almost 5 years on a string of offences including home burglary, car theft, stealing, and reckless driving)
Harley Bennell (former pick 2 - traded for unders due to drug issues and being a professional headcase)
This is just from draftees over the last few years… and there are other examples (see Chris Yarran).
Michael Long
Nicky Winmar
Gavin Wanganeen
Nathan Lovett-Murray
Adam Goodes
Michael O’Loughlin
This is just off field importance not even considering ability
So yeah I am gonna call you a racist. And I’m not sure why more on this site aren’t being called out for it
Because your examples are a decade old and the best of all time?
And while I’m no acolyte of G, Deckham if you have an opposing view then make it.
You don’t ask the person who makes the first point to make your counter-point for you. Make it yourself or shut up.
Were clubs better at developing aboriginal talent a decade ago?
I don’t know.
But recent history…G has a prima face case.
Don’t just lazily call him racist.
Edit: also, Michael O’Loughlin? Not sure you want to go there.
In my opinion, it has nothing to do with skin color. Gen Y are just a bunch of ■■■■■■■ that feel they are entitled to everything! But that’s just my opinion.
Side note: with the retirement of Harvey this year, every player in the AFL is now Gen Y.
And in 5 years time you will be complaining about Gen Snowflake.
What goes round comes round.
I'd suggest De Boer would be the defensive forward that they intended to play McGrath as.
Ready to go. Finals experienced player.
Absolutely they are in premiership window.
I also think they identified that they may need a tagger for finals. I don’t recall them using one, preferring to Ho head to head with the opposition midfield.
Also, I don’t think they trust Stevie J to be available so DeBoer would be a good choice instead of the guy they brought in for the finals last year (his name escapes me).
out of curiosity, i start to wonder how much barracking for a club will have an effect on who clubs pick going forward.
Just say there were 5 decent kids who could go no.1, would you pick the one who barracked for us even if you thought another player might be slightly better or fit a specific need better ?
I donno if mcgrath did barrack for us or not, just curious how much clubs will rate this factor going forward from now on, knowing players are just leaving willy nilly when they feel like it.
id like to think itd be given absolutely 0 consideration
What I don't get about the whole De Boer thing is that if they wanted him, why not just pick him up in the DFA period? Wouldn't this allow them to sign him on a 1 year deal only instead of 2?
He would have also made more sense on a rookie list, unless they plan to actually give him plenty of games this year.
Mature age players who have already been on an AFL list only get a 1 year contract if they are re-drafted in the National Draft IIRC. The same went with Mitch Brown and Hartley last year and we extended their contracts fairly quickly.
Players who have been in the system can set their contract in both drafts (ND/PSD), and clubs then have to take that if they pick them.
Here's hoping Jackets cut a deal with Woosh that if we went full vanilla at the national draft he was allowed to load up on sprinkles in the rookie draft.
Out of interest… What Aboriginal players were picked up by wc when JW was coach.
A quick search gives me the following: Sampi, Jamie Bennell, Cockie, Josh Hill, Newman, Weedon, Wellingham, Oakley-Nicholls, Papertalk. Edit: and Broome.
Just wondering, apparently scharenberg totally gave up on school as afl was his goal. battle said something similar in his green machine pre draft thing, ‘school wasn’t great but im aiming for the afl and thats important’ reckon this was a similar reason why battle slid so far?
This whole "its ok, we'll get him in two years anyway" stuff is complete crap imo. If they are any good, they'll cost us way more than the original pick anyway.
disagree. gws have already shown they'll trade players for unders and I dont think setterfield is going to get a huge crack in their midfield over the next two years to pump his value up. however, it all means nothing because i dont think that just because he barracks for essendon he would want to be traded to us in 2 years anyway.
Its now a different world for GWS - Same list size and salary cap as all AFL Clubs - So GWS will try to hold onto all required players and there will be no more handing freebies.