Personally, I value goals.
But each to their own, I guess.
Personally, I value goals.
But each to their own, I guess.
He legit manages to kick goals all the time, regardless of his ability in contested marking contests. Absolutely agree.
If thereâs a spot we probably have too many or getting close to too many spots locked away up in, it could be his area, is all.
What do we have, Wright, May, Caddy, Edwards, Jones⌠Gerreyn. If they can find a way to retain, wouldnât be against it. Gives me our Mitch Brown vibes.
Talk was Blakiston might be getting a contract I think I read, presumably if Draper goes.
I need someone to do the numbers (probably has been done just havenât seen it) on how many more we have to cut to get to say 3-4 free for draft with Draper leaving being the 3 or 4 swing.
Scroll up, and youâll see my intentions of who should be delisted.
Give me a hint
When was it. Scrolling for ages, yet to arrive to it
This your list? Thatâs all I could see.
Confusing for a delisting thread if so considering few under contract.
Gresham
Parish
Guelfi
Redman
Shiel
Laverde
Menzie
Jones
Setterfield
Davey
Smartt
Hobbs
He has done a lot more than May on the ground.
difference is one is signed already.
One massive difference between McMahon and May, aside from McMahon kicking 5 more goals in same amount of games, is 19 to 1 tackles in Mayâs favour. He provides pressure that McMahon does not. Gets more of the ball, more goal assists, more inside 50s, more marks.
Goal kicking McMahon has him covered and is way more accurate too. Very neat kick. They can both exist on the list, and if we do delist McMahon he will absolutely walk onto another team and be a good pickup.
Iâm purely talking about list spots and we have heaps of tall/key type forwards under contract already.
I have zero issues if we retain him. I just donât know how. Happily cull the Hobbs and all the not great small forward types to make way if that is enough
A âmutual parting of the waysâ after Rd 10. Not sure that reads as anything other than âsackedâ?
We simply delist Jones.
Pay him out. Itâs a was a mistake to re-sign him, but we need to do whatâs best for the club.
The other thing to note, Laverde is gone. Goldstein also gone. And Draper likely gone. Thatâs 4 talls potentially out the door.
Blackiston plays as a ruckman or Key defender (which ever we need).
Wright steps up to play more ruck.
McMahon has played key defence.
And Gerreyn has also looked promising as a Key defender.
The fact is we ainât playing for finals, weâre in a rebuild period. We donât need the list be perfect.
Not sure of the $$ jones is on, but Iâd launch Gresham first if cutting and paying out dudes.
True re McMahon as a defender backup too. Did spend the year in Collingwood VFL as a defender.
Hayes coming off ACL you wonât know how he comes back.
Reid has a history of problems.
Ridley has a history of problems.
if anything having too many defender capable players is a necessity.
Goldy, Shiel, Lav, Draper?, Hobbs, Smartt, Davey, whoever isnât contracted of Tsatas/Perkins
You can get up to a decent cull number pretty easy hey before trying to offload couple by trade
 darkknightpheonix:
 darkknightpheonix:widely reported voss was first picked in the vfl every week
but thats not true , is it
He quit because they wouldnât go down whatever path he suggested. They accepted his decision to quit.
They didnât sack him, he sacked himself.
Might happen again though, because not sure what path he now has us on on-field.
Totally agree re Jones!!
 jonovdp:
 jonovdp:Pay him out.
Drink
I wouldnât delist McMahon, but Iâd lock him in a gym for 6 months
Has arms like toothpicks
Heâs a goal kicker in a side that isnât kicking many goals. Probably worth another look.
And we havenât broken his goal kicking yet.
He may be immune to being Essingtonâd
We must study his blood.
And?
Chop Guelfi.
Chop Jones. Nik Cox.
Make it happen.
We have no list spots but we do have cash. Very easy problem to use one to fix the other.
Thatâs even before trading anyone.
If Essendon are just going to pay people to not play, Iâm happy to volunteer as a delisting. Gimme that sweet, sweet pay out cash.
Cox may have that decision made for him.
Canât see us cutting him without it being medically retired. That has pretty bad optics.
Guelfi and co, absolutely
Jeez we really have a big hole in the middle of our list.
Just for informational purposes.
Terminating a player consists of paying the rest of their current year (obviously) plus all of their remaining contract as if they played 23 games per year all under the current yearâs TPP. The absolute bare minimum it would cost to pay out a senior listed player with 2 years left on their contract, if theyâre on the minimum possible contract, is an additional $500k to this yearâs cap, which works out to about about 3% of the cap. The mean would be around a million. No idea about the median.
Players are paid for a contract year in 12 equal amounts starting in November, plus match payments on the 15th of each month. This means we have already paid out 100% of the match payments for the year, any performance based incentive payments have been locked in, and ~85% of the base payments have already been paid. Thereâs some flexibility there, but not much, and youâd probably need to move around the payments of a lot of players to free up meaningful room.
If weâre paying 100% of the cap or more (which is entirely possible if weâre front loading a bunch of contracts already), it might be the case that paying out someone like Jones with 2 years to run on a modest contract isnât actually workable. Paying out someone like Parish is almost certainly impossible, even if we planning to only spend 95% this year.
Edit: sorry, we wouldnât have paid out the match payments for the last 3 rounds yet.