DVU and Dell for mine.
Two things:When you consider Kav flagged his intention to find a new home before the trade period, and there were no takers, I think it's pretty safe bet that we could delist him and re-rookie him if that's what our intention was. This is a guy who could crack the top 10 of our reserves B&F. Other clubs aren't going to be banging down his door, least of all Sydney.For all those suggesting that Kav should be demoted to the rookie list, consider this. First you have to delist him. He's then a free agent. Which means Sydney (or anyone) can then pick him up for free onto their senior list before the rookie draft.I'm guessing they might delist Kav and re-rookie him as he has another year on his contract still to run.
If he was out of contract he would be gonski.
Now, maybe Sydney doesn't want to as they couldn't trade anyone out. Maybe nobody else wants to even if he comes for free. And maybe we wouldn't care since we don't think he'll make it or have any trade value a year from now.
But it is something we would need to consider.
Of course, the same right to pick up delisted players as free agents applies to anyone delisted as part of moving them to the rookie list.
1. The rumour was it was Sydney interested, but when they got banned from trading in that got knocked on its head. But they might still be interested in him as a free agent.
2. We have no idea what price we put on Kav's head, or what clubs expected us to put on him. However, comparing Kav vs. someone they'll draft at 50+, clubs might decide Kav for free is a worthwhile move.
The reality is we don't have a clue. But the club would need to consider it before delisting him to put on the rookie list. As I said above, its possible depending on how they rate him they might want someone to take him. Or not. Who knows how Hird, Skipworth, Dodorro all rate him.
We should delist anyone under 28 years of age, they don’t fit our recruiting strategy.
For players that they would only put onto the rookie draft - sure. Especially if the player wants to stay at their club.
Clubs have a gentlemen's agreement not to touch players who are transferred from the Primary List to the Rookie List - Can you give me a name to support your argument.
For all those suggesting that Kav should be demoted to the rookie list, consider this. First you have to delist him. He's then a free agent. Which means Sydney (or anyone) can then pick him up for free onto their senior list before the rookie draft.I'm guessing they might delist Kav and re-rookie him as he has another year on his contract still to run.
If he was out of contract he would be gonski.
Now, maybe Sydney doesn't want to as they couldn't trade anyone out. Maybe nobody else wants to even if he comes for free. And maybe we wouldn't care since we don't think he'll make it or have any trade value a year from now.
But it is something we would need to consider.
Of course, the same right to pick up delisted players as free agents applies to anyone delisted as part of moving them to the rookie list.
But I suspect it would be a whole different kettle of fish if another club was offering a senior list spot and the player wanted to take it. It's one thing to let another club put someone on their own rookie list when you're not offering anything significantly more and forcing the player to uproot themselves. Its another when you're offering the security of the main list, and the player has to agree to it (and presumably want it).
This scenario applies to players who are on the rookie list and offered a spot on a primary list ( read jenkins ) - Once the primary list player ( contracted ) agrees to go down to the rookie list its a done deal - No clubs will intervene.
Dell’olio De’listed
Headline writes itself when it happens.
Dell'olio De'listed
Headline writes itself when it happens.
They are offering dell to anyone interested with free overnight shipping and extended warranty
Everyone here seems to be naming DVU but not the club, wondering if this means:
1 - he's unreachable right now for whatever reason
2 - we have a Frankston quota to fill, or
3 - if we get two smalls/mids in the draft he might get a lifeline, thus possibly may stay as a depth player
2 - we have a Frankston quota to fill.
Everyone here seems to be naming DVU but not the club, wondering if this means:
1 - he's unreachable right now for whatever reason
2 - we have a Frankston quota to fill, or
3 - if we get two smalls/mids in the draft he might get a lifeline, thus possibly may stay as a depth player
4 - Best mates with Paddy Ambrose
For players that they would only put onto the rookie draft - sure. Especially if the player wants to stay at their club.
Clubs have a gentlemen's agreement not to touch players who are transferred from the Primary List to the Rookie List - Can you give me a name to support your argument.
For all those suggesting that Kav should be demoted to the rookie list, consider this. First you have to delist him. He's then a free agent. Which means Sydney (or anyone) can then pick him up for free onto their senior list before the rookie draft.I'm guessing they might delist Kav and re-rookie him as he has another year on his contract still to run.
If he was out of contract he would be gonski.
Now, maybe Sydney doesn't want to as they couldn't trade anyone out. Maybe nobody else wants to even if he comes for free. And maybe we wouldn't care since we don't think he'll make it or have any trade value a year from now.
But it is something we would need to consider.
Of course, the same right to pick up delisted players as free agents applies to anyone delisted as part of moving them to the rookie list.
But I suspect it would be a whole different kettle of fish if another club was offering a senior list spot and the player wanted to take it. It's one thing to let another club put someone on their own rookie list when you're not offering anything significantly more and forcing the player to uproot themselves. Its another when you're offering the security of the main list, and the player has to agree to it (and presumably want it).
This scenario applies to players who are on the rookie list and offered a spot on a primary list ( read jenkins ) - Once the primary list player ( contracted ) agrees to go down to the rookie list its a done deal - No clubs will intervene.
Why won't / can't they?
In reality it's only happened to half-eaten-packet-of-chips guys - Jay Neagle with a big contract, Tom Lonergan with his kidney busted, 30yo Adam Schneider etc.
For players that they would only put onto the rookie draft - sure. Especially if the player wants to stay at their club.
Clubs have a gentlemen's agreement not to touch players who are transferred from the Primary List to the Rookie List - Can you give me a name to support your argument.
For all those suggesting that Kav should be demoted to the rookie list, consider this. First you have to delist him. He's then a free agent. Which means Sydney (or anyone) can then pick him up for free onto their senior list before the rookie draft.I'm guessing they might delist Kav and re-rookie him as he has another year on his contract still to run.
If he was out of contract he would be gonski.
Now, maybe Sydney doesn't want to as they couldn't trade anyone out. Maybe nobody else wants to even if he comes for free. And maybe we wouldn't care since we don't think he'll make it or have any trade value a year from now.
But it is something we would need to consider.
Of course, the same right to pick up delisted players as free agents applies to anyone delisted as part of moving them to the rookie list.
But I suspect it would be a whole different kettle of fish if another club was offering a senior list spot and the player wanted to take it. It's one thing to let another club put someone on their own rookie list when you're not offering anything significantly more and forcing the player to uproot themselves. Its another when you're offering the security of the main list, and the player has to agree to it (and presumably want it).
This scenario applies to players who are on the rookie list and offered a spot on a primary list ( read jenkins ) - Once the primary list player ( contracted ) agrees to go down to the rookie list its a done deal - No clubs will intervene.
Why won't / can't they?
In reality it's only happened to half-eaten-packet-of-chips guys - Jay Neagle with a big contract, Tom Lonergan with his kidney busted, 30yo Adam Schneider etc.
In reality only alf-eaten-packet-of-chips guys will go from the primary to the rookie.
WTF would you do it to anyone even half decent?
For players that they would only put onto the rookie draft - sure. Especially if the player wants to stay at their club.
Clubs have a gentlemen's agreement not to touch players who are transferred from the Primary List to the Rookie List - Can you give me a name to support your argument.
For all those suggesting that Kav should be demoted to the rookie list, consider this. First you have to delist him. He's then a free agent. Which means Sydney (or anyone) can then pick him up for free onto their senior list before the rookie draft.I'm guessing they might delist Kav and re-rookie him as he has another year on his contract still to run.
If he was out of contract he would be gonski.
Now, maybe Sydney doesn't want to as they couldn't trade anyone out. Maybe nobody else wants to even if he comes for free. And maybe we wouldn't care since we don't think he'll make it or have any trade value a year from now.
But it is something we would need to consider.
Of course, the same right to pick up delisted players as free agents applies to anyone delisted as part of moving them to the rookie list.
But I suspect it would be a whole different kettle of fish if another club was offering a senior list spot and the player wanted to take it. It's one thing to let another club put someone on their own rookie list when you're not offering anything significantly more and forcing the player to uproot themselves. Its another when you're offering the security of the main list, and the player has to agree to it (and presumably want it).
This scenario applies to players who are on the rookie list and offered a spot on a primary list ( read jenkins ) - Once the primary list player ( contracted ) agrees to go down to the rookie list its a done deal - No clubs will intervene.
Why won't / can't they?
In reality it's only happened to half-eaten-packet-of-chips guys - Jay Neagle with a big contract, Tom Lonergan with his kidney busted, 30yo Adam Schneider etc.
In reality only alf-eaten-packet-of-chips guys will go from the primary to the rookie.
WTF would you do it to anyone even half decent?
In reality, umm, that's exactly my point?
It's not that clubs won't, that's only an assumption and IMHO a very bad one.
Can we downgrade enough players to get 38 on the main list and 6 on the rookie list? Pay the guys who are downgraded the same as their senior contract, so no issue there. Would be able to elevate 2 of the 6 as from round 1, so they can still get games like any other player. Odds are you'd also have 1 or 2 LTIs throughout the season, so there's an extra avenue to play there too. To me it would give the rookie list enough flexibility that in practice it would function like a 44 man senior list. Only thing to manage is the ego hit of being demoted.
How many spots do we have on our rookie list. Ambrose elevated. 1more year for Steinberg and Thurlow.
Rayner out. Dell Ollio??
We have added the irish guy - is he part of the rookie list? Or a different rookie list?
We are committed to Jake Long as a rookie.
How many spots left?
oh the questions!
Dell, DVU, Thurlow gorn according to my Twitter.
Confirmed by the club.
Yep official by EFC:
Dell’Olio, Van Unen and Thurlow gone.
Condolences Peeto.
Essendon Football Club has finalised the changes to its playing list ahead of next month‘s AFL National Draft.
Cory Dell‘Olio, Dylan van Unen and Fraser Thurlow have all been advised their contracts will not be renewed for the 2015 season.
General Manager - Football Operations Rob Kerr thanked the trio for their services in the red and black.
“We wish Cory, Dylan and Fraser all the best for their future endeavours beyond Essendon,†Kerr said.
“They are well rounded young men who have displayed tremendous commitment and dedication in their bid to carve out AFL careers.â€
<span style="font-size:18px;"><strong>List Changes 2014</strong></span>
October 29, 2014 5:04 Pm
Essendon Football Club has finalised the changes to its playing list ahead of next month‘s AFL National Draft.
Cory Dell‘Olio, Dylan van Unen and Fraser Thurlow have all been advised their contracts will not be renewed for the 2015 season.
General Manager - Football Operations Rob Kerr thanked the trio for their services in the red and black.
“We wish Cory, Dylan and Fraser all the best for their future endeavours beyond Essendon,†Kerr said.
“They are well rounded young men who have displayed tremendous commitment and dedication in their bid to carve out AFL careers.â€
“Following the recent delisting of Kyle Hardingham, Leroy Jetta, Sean Gregory, Johnny Rayner and the departure of Patrick Ryder, the club has now finalised its list ahead of the National Draft.â€
Dell‘Olio played 16 games after being drafted to the club in the 2011 AFL Rookie Draft, while van Unen was drafted from Frankston in the VFL, and made his senior debut against Fremantle in round 4, 2014.
Thurlow was selected in 2014 Rookie Draft and played in the opening NAB Challenge game against the Gold Coast.