Electric Motor Vehicles

If they knock it down to zero, can I stop them taking it from us ?

You can get a battery but then they will charge big $$$ just for the grid connection in case you ever need power from the grid. Only way to avoid it is by going off grid.

FWIW the WA govt has a socialist approach to this issue: they give $400 credit to everyone and pay bugger all for daytime solar power. So basically itā€™s a social transfer from ā€œrichā€ to ā€œpoorā€. It works in WA because the power company is still State-owned.

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yeah , Iā€™m a bit the same with the grill . Iā€™m also not keen on the cars that have a square or bull nose , and no grill either like the Volvo or the mustang for example . I think if that Mazda one was textured it would look ok rather than if it was just painted on .

We have a battery, but it always seems to be full. I am not brave enough yet to cut us off from the grid. We still have not hooked up the wind turbine, as there is an issue with battery connection and we are still trying to sell the house.

Planning on tak8ng battery with us if we ever leave.

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You can set the max export to 0 within your inverter. This will mean you export nothing but any power generated above what you can use or store is lost.

WTF does it go?

Can just imagine the static hum getting around in a house thatā€™s not expecting any electrons

Itā€™s a bit like the first Volvo ev or even the Polestar (Volvo). It looks like they are trying to keep the look and feel of an ICE.

10/10 for looks, both interior and exterior. Iā€™m constantly surprised how check some EVs look inside.

I personally donā€™t like the console between the front seats, if it doesnā€™t actually do anything (like a transmission).

5/10 for performance. Itā€™s a slow car, and that would concern me why it isnā€™t closer to the 5.0 seconds for 0-100kmh. It was something like 7.8. Even the base Model 3 is about 6.0.

5/10 for storage. It looks kind of small. But if you want an EV and storage you probably want to go Tesla model Y.

Speaking of the Y just read on top gear that Australia and China are getting the latest version first?

https://www.tesla.com/en_AU/modely/design

EVs have totally changed expectations about performance. 0-100 in 5 seconds is pretty unnecessary on the actual road, and pretty much supercar numbers back in the dayā€¦

A very bad thing about EVā€™s is that they are so quick and they are in the hands of people that have no idea or experience of how to handle the acceleration.

Always driven high performance cars and the acceleration of a Tesla 3 performance scares me.

Way faster than my current highly modified 440 charger or any of the previous Japanese turbo cars Iā€™ve owned.

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My VW golf will do it in 5. With a tune itā€™ll do it in 4, which is pretty crazy for a little daily driver. Itā€™s plenty.

But, what I was getting at is that itā€™s slow comparatively for other electric cars in that price range. Is there a reason for that in the manufacturers philosophy or who theyā€™ll market it to, or is it because their motors are not as powerful? It just feels a bit odd.

My Model 3 Long Range will do 0 - 100 kph in 3.5 secs, which is quick.

However it is not like I sit at the lights, smoking the tyres to roar off the mark. The benefit of the high torque and power is that if I overtake on a country road, I am out and around other cars and trucks in an impressively short distance. So sitting just below 100 kph, and accelerating to 130 kph is just rapid, and it does not take that long to get used to it.

I have adjusted my steering to be a little heavier, as I found it a bit too responsive at high acceleration.

Perhaps it could encourage drivers to take more risks, though I do not know any Tesla 3 Drivers who are that way inclined. We tend to be grey haired and conservative on the road.

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Yeah I reckon 0 to100 in 3 to 6 secnds is super cool but for me would not be a deal breaker as only a few years ago would be something most people would either not really need or hope to ever attain. I would need to drive a car that does it in 6 which is pretty decent anyway and then another in seven to see if I really feel like its a major difference. Most seem to be around the 6 mark
I would like it to feel prerty torquey but doesnt need to be supercar level for me if there is 20 k difference in the price.
If I really just wanted that, there are plenty of used teslaā€™s about that would do sub 4 sec for under 50k if that is all I wanted.
Id be keener in general ride, tech and comfort. I doubt any of the plus 55K new cars are slow as such

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I only need 0-60 in three seconds.
Itā€™s what I like about my old Alfa.
Of courseā€¦60-100 takes longer. And I do miss the grunt at 80+ of my unbreakable Mitsubishi (until some drunk bastard totalled it while it was parked).

Neither of which were electric, but Iā€™m just talking about the joy of acceleration.

In a stock ICE, sure.

For EV, most feel like they have the same 0-50 as they do 50-100.

Itā€™s just linear acceleration, no lag whatsoever. A little hard to get used to, especially when youā€™re the co pilot with an L Plater at the wheelā€¦

So my Hyundai Ioniq5 will beat my VW Golf R to the 50, but once the turbo kicks in itā€™ll be walked to the 100.

Pretty wild that these stock family cars for under 100k would be as fast Supercars from the 80s

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I see all sorts of sport cars on the road and the drivers are nearly always slowest off the line. Probably too busy looking at themselves in a mirror or on their phone.

Not blitzers, other drivers.

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The other bit about EV, is that not only is the acceleration linear as someone suggested, but it seems to just keep going.

Fastest I ever drove in ICE was a Mercedes sports car hired in Germany where I got it to 185 on the Autobahn which took a few kms, and even though other cars passed me, I was panicked enough to slow down. At that speed found it hard to control.

After the first week of the Model 3, I was driving on the road from Werribee to Bacchus Marsh, and there is about a km straight that had just been resurfaced and there was nothing around. This time I panicked at 200, not actually from the speed but realised if the police got me, then I might lose the car and definitely my licence.

First and last time to drive like that but it was interesting how rapidly and smoothly the speed just climbed.

I like light cars. When they work out how to take the weight out of batteries they are gonna be amazing.

I think the solid state stuff a big benefit is it slashes weight of EVs

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Iā€™m very shaped from a young experience seeing a falcon split a pulsar in half, be in the falcon has stayed with me since

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Agree. My first 60 years went by really quickly.

They are dragging out a bit now - EFC being crap doesnā€™t help.

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