I don’t know how anyone can suggest wanga deserves more time. He’s perennially injured and his form is meh.
How long did Jake long last with us?
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I wanted tex to make it, he hasn’t taken his chance.
We need a better forward set up and Hunter may provide that so he gets a spot next year.
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So the question is would you keep Baldwin? He is in the same boat
Same boat for mine. Probably should be delisted.
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Last 5 games he’s averaging 16 disposals.
He’s got 5 more at VFL level to lift.
Hope he gets there.
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But Weideman was in his initial contract after coming to us. A terrible precedent to set. And if we’d delisted him and taken a National Draft player we’d be in an even tighter list situation now.
We shouldn’t have got him in the first place but having done so cutting him last year would have been the wrong decision.
Hunter is a rookie so doesn’t count for the three to go.
If Tex stays four must go from the senior list.
This is pretty ridiculous list to justify keeping Tex.
- Baldwin has shown far more at AFL level than Tex has at VFL level
- J Davey is only in his second year to Tex’s three and is arguably showing more than Tex did in a position of need.
- Hunter is in a similar situation but has handled his rehab better and doesn’t need a senior list spot to stay next year.
- Hind has been in our best 23 most weeks. Is miles ahead of Tex.
- Weid is gone.
- Menzie has shown more and doesn’t need to be promoted to the senior list
- Goldy might retire. He might not.
- Same with Heppell
- Lual was a second round draftee and is in his first year. He’s not going anywhere.
- Shiel might be traded, he may not
- There is no reason to think Tsatas will want a trade or that we’d allow Bryan to leave
- Ainsworth and Zurhaar coming in would make it less likely to keep Tex.
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No we shouldn’t have taken him.
Who honestly cares if it was the end of his 1st year? It doesn’t set any other precedent other than, we gave the guy more opportunities than warranted and he flopped. Good teams dont hang on to dead weight.
A free list spot doesn’t mean we head to the draft to fill it Ants, so no it doesnt mean we would have been in a tighter spot. We could promote a rookie on terms that suit, take an SSP on terms that suit, we could have even got in a delisted free agent on terms that suit.
There’s a lot of other options than hanging onto a list clogger or going to the national draft.
It matters to any other fringe players we want to attract.
Yes, we could have filled his spot with someone we expect to delist this year. Thus getting the same result but with less salary cap. Keeping Weideman once we’d got him was the right move.
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Ah, what the actual ■■■■?
Gavin was not fragile. He was in fact, the furthest possible thing from fragile.
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Stop calling Menzie, Menzies ffs.
Anyhow, back to Tex, id love to give him one more year but just cant see it happening. Will be delisted imo
I think every player on the move has the ability to look at things objectively. They would see we had just appointed a coach, he had no idea on the list or any work Adrian had done to convince players over. Any list decision from here on out would be with Brads input and intention to use/want them.
A rookie list/ssp/delisted free agent contract costs 80-100k, but you have the opportunity to unearth a gem.
As opposed to watching an effortless waste cruise around each week.
I’d take that punt myself
Scott was in place before Wideman came over, wasn’t he? And hardly someone Scott wouldn’t be familiar with.
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He came out and said he wasn’t across the work the list management team had put in and would let them do their thing for the period.
His appointment will allow the Bombers’ list management team to present their strategy to a senior coach, having already worked tirelessly in the months leading up to the off-season, with a large portion of that period without a man at the helm.
But Scott won’t be looking to shake up a system that has been in place for the course of this year as Essendon look to improve their list for 2023.
“Ultimately the the experts will do their job and that space,” Scott told media in his first press conference as senior coach.
The bell doesn’t ring for trade period and clubs start talking to each other, that work has been going on in the background for a long time.
"As I always do I’ll play a supporting role but not a leading one
They would know Scott was there, and was then willing to cut Weideman after one year. It would have sent the wrong signal.
But it’s clear we completely disagree with each other and think the other is nuts with nonsensical arguments, so let’s just leave it at that.
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Gavin Wanganeen was a rake-thin teenager who had made his name as a premiership forward with Port Adelaide in the SANFL.
But Sheedy feared he was getting tagged, bashed and bullied out of the game by opposition defenders.
So in a moment of genius as the Bombers prepared to play Sydney at the MCG in Round 11 1992, the Essendon coach decided he would flip the script on its head and send the kid to the backline.
“We were worried about him getting injured because he used to go at the ball from terribly different angles and he’d get hurt and you are always worried about a new player getting injured,” Sheedy tells The Advertiser.
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I think people just get caught up in the fact that Gavin was such a player and the emotion with that they want tex to be the same.
Unfortunately we have to move on from some players and especially players that have been injury plagued, now the lists aren’t as big you cant carry these players on the hope they may come good one day.
Not true. Rookie elevations count as one of the 3 mandatory picks.
Not to say we wouldn’t want to make more list changes than that anyway, but it wouldn’t be required.
If you can’t spot the difference between what Baldwin has shown and what Wanganeen has, you aren’t paying attention. The only similarity is that they have both been unavailable through injury a lot. Baldwin won selection as a forward on very little prep, then later, after being a standout in the VFL as a defender (which Tex has not yet been at any time), he went very well in a few games in the AFL. He is an AFL player clearly, he just has to get a run at out without injury. Tex is way short of that on exposed form.
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