Not enough people are affected for the majority to care. simple numbers game. theres what 4 other posters that are as invested on your stance as you. then 5 opposing? in a forum of thousands. expand to national discourse. disregarding of mainstream media discourse. a general distaste of the wider geopolitical issue attached to this and, its apathy.
and to address the point more specifically, why would any politician particularly outer northern and western metro ones (in melb) west in syd put the muslim vote offside by having a stance.
Police and judiciary aren’t the same. It’s a complex and frustrating relationship. I arrested plenty of recidivist offenders only to see them circling around again. And that has noting to do with police leadership or politicians becuase most laws have sufficient penalties (we could haggle over a few but generally speaking).
I disagree that words and actions have been lacking my police friends work tirelessly and they know the priorities.
I posted earlier about societies role in this.
Here is an example where arresting our way out of a problem is not the answer.
I arrested a 20 year old woman with one of the longest police records I’d seen. Everyone knew her.
An absolute menace when on drugs.
Thing is, she was raped by her father from age 2, who also shared her with his friends.
She had no hope. Non. She needed to be in a mental health system not prison.
So I don’t believe arresting everyone for everything and applying the maximum sentence is the right approach.
I’m not interested in changing opinions. You post an interesting take on things, you post with passion. My issue is presupposing the motives and actions of ongoing investigations.
I get your post. Baccusfox gave a similar response when I said pollies should do more on domestic violence. Apathy, or loss of or no votes in making a these type of topics a continual talking and action point.
It’s a sad reflection on society that there has to be self interest to attempt or try make an improvement because it’s the right thing to do. Same goes for Islamophobia and men’s suicide.
I have a Jewish sister in law and best mate who is from Pakistan and follows Islam.
I’m not directly affected, but I do see how it impacts them. I just want things to improve for everyone.
So do several law enforcement and intelligence agencies, in fact. The first law of civil disobedience is never to trust that youngish guy who joins your group and is always asking about (never outright suggesting) a progression from protest to violent action, cos he’s probably an undercover cop trying to provoke you into agreeing with him so he can arrest you and score a shiny antiterrorism medal for himself.
But yeah, the relatively recent accelerationist movement has made protest of any ideological stripe more fraught. They want to promote and accelerate the breakdown of civil society (most often on racial lines, but they’ll take what they can get), and making every possible protest violent to deepen political/civil/racial divides and increase tension in general is a standard tactic of theirs.
The person in your example that you describe was in a different situation and committed very different crimes to what was being discussed.
Should have received lots of counseling and medical care, be it in custody or supervised in a facility. May of helped, may not have.
The way we take care of people with mental illness, of various types, is very poor. That is unless you are loaded and can afford the care or the rehab ($10+k/week) which may of helped.
It’s not a one approach of hardline enforcement and incarceration fits all crimes and actions.
I’d say she needed a very different approach, especially early on, to those that commit antisemitism or Islamophobia acts or crimes.
Sigh , ‘mobs’ . It’s not illegal to congregate in a protest at the Opera House.
Another poster went further in the slur against protesters ( around post 4014) in asserting , without any basis in fact, that the police allowed for ‘months of months of anti semitic protests with calls of death to Jews’ to proceed.
Some have a Voice in the Establishment, others don’t.
Now, the scare mongering in the Murdochracy and on Social Media ablout an Indigenous Voice to Victorian Parliament is intensifying.
I was advised that a visa had previously been granted to Bob Vylann to enter Australia - presumably to perform his music including his now well publicised chant. Given Friday night’s “Death Death”’calls and the arson attack on the synagogue will this decision to grant Bob a visa be reconsidered?