Yeah, you must be right, cause we have a bunch of staff. Remember the time when our staff thought that the way to make players fitter was to run them into the ground and burn them out. “No pain, no gain”. Remember the time our staff thought it was a good idea to inject players with lots of stuff?
Amongst internationally recognised fitness and strength coaches it is known and taught that you don’t wear spongy shoes when lifting weights as there is no feedback. But you keep believing what you want if it makes you feel better.
You may want to check your pills as I am not sure they make you angry anymore, they just seem to make you dumber.
I challenge you to name more than one, because if you trawl through social media all you’ll see is international and elite level athletes wearing, in the gym, exactly the same type of footwear as Laverde.
Currently, the whole barefoot movement has all the hallmarks of pseudoscience; enough rational thinking with some physiology behind it to make it plausible but zero evidence (beyond anecdotes) to support it.
I’d also argue to feeling your feet when you train would become redundant regardless once you have to run around in leather football boots that have hard plastic stops on the bottom.
Is he doing a lot of other sports?
Wouldn’t normally associated a vertebral stress fracture with tennis.
The general/broad advice given for stress/overuse related injuries are
cease painful activity until symptoms resolve (up to 12 weeks in this case)
fitness can be maintained via unloaded activities (back stress fractures are extension related so cycling and swimming may be viable alternatives)
begin addressing the causes immediately (invariably it’s poor management of training loads, but if there are any stark muscle length or strength deficiencies these can begin to be addressed in the recovery period)
gradually return to full activities (given the age in this instance I would be extremely conservative; don’t want to end up like James Pattinson)
I’d definitely be working with a Physiotherapist during the recovery stages then an Exercise Physiologist or Exercise/Sports Scientist as he begins his return to sport to map out training loads etc
Thanks for the comprehensive reply eastie. Just tennis for Sam although he did have an incident where a kid slammed a tennis ball into his back from 5 metres and the reflex action may have caused it. He was playing 6 days a week.
My first inclination would be that particular incident was merely the straw that broke the camel’s back.
6 days a week doing 1 particular sport is a lot for a teenager.
It may seem counterintuitive at first, but research has shown that early sports specialisation actually leads to poorer sporting outcomes in adulthood ie the kid that plays Tennis + 2-3 other sports will actually be a better tennis player than the kid that only plays tennis.
I am able to provide about a month’s worth of reading on the topic (ranging from “expert opinion”, to referenced opinion articles to peer reviewed studies and critical literature reviews) but the following opinion article is a good starting point
A Particular selected quote of note
“First, here are five research excerpts that demonstrate how early specialization may negatively affect your child:
Children who specialize in a single sport account for 50% of overuse injuries in young athletes according to pediatric orthopedic specialists
A study by OhioStateUniversity found that children who specialized early in a single sport led to higher rates of adult physical inactivity. Those who commit to one sport at a young age are often the first to quit, and suffer a lifetime of consequences.
In a study of 1200 youth athletes, Dr Neeru Jayanthi of LoyolaUniversity found that early specialization in a single sport is one of the strongest predictors of injury. Athletes in the study who specialized were 70% to 93% more likely to be injured than children who played multiple sports!
Children who specialize early are at a far greater risk for burnout due to stress, decreased motivation and lack of enjoyment
Early sport specialization in female adolescents is associated with increased risk of anterior knee pain disorders including PFP, Osgood Schlatter and Sinding Larsen-Johansson compared to multi-sport athletes, and may lead to higher rates of future ACL tears (added May 2014)”
Eastie’s recommendations sound like a good start to me. Might even be worth looking at osteo, maybe something postural where he’s loading that spot more than he should.
Do a bit of your own research/reading, then get the GP to refer.
Thanks for the reply Eastie Boi. I didn’t realise that social media is what we should all be following in regards to how to train. Good to know, is that what they are teaching you kids now?
How about these internationally recognised strength coaches who recommend minimalist shoes or weightlifting shoes or barefeet:
Mark Rippetoe - even if he is a bit of a ahole
Louie Simmons - go to shoes for lifting - Converse Chuck Taylor All Stars
Dan John - the coaches coach
Do you want me to find more for you, or are we finished with this game of my ■■■■ is bigger than yours?
If we are going to play “my social media pics are better than yours” then try these on for size:
Latest pic from USA Weightlifting, showing… oh weight lifting shoes of a champion weight lifter…
More weight lifting… oh wearing minimalist shoes…wow, both the lifter and the spotter.
Wow, weight lifting shoes and minimalist shoes…
Doesn’t really prove anything though, does it.
And when did I state that it was only about going barefoot, I said that they should either go bare foot, minimalist or flat soled shoes, but good job making the argument about something else. If you are lifting weights and doing power lifts then barefoot, minimalist or weight training shoes are best. Olympic lifts require minimalist shoes or weight lifting shoes. Cross fit type activities should be in minimalist or less padded shoes than running shoes. If you are running then get running shoes or build up foot strength to running in minimalist shoes or bare feet.
Whilst we are on footwear, what is your opinion on thongs?
Not even the worst part of his argument.
I was going to type a long winded reply but I’ve spent the last couple of months writing what turned out to be a 9000 word review on Parkinson’s Disease and really cbf doing any more reading or research atm lol
I received a call from the Kyogle Rugby League Club the other day and they want me to put together their pre-season strength and conditioning program. Should be fun. Having programmed and conducted the training for various Aust Rules football teams as well as preparing military and civvies for deployment OS this will be another one to add to the resume.
Eight weeks of fun for the Bush Turkeys coming up.
Not bad.
I finished my diploma in Jan and got credited some subjects towards a health science bachelor.
Concurrently doing an adv Dip to upgrade from a RMT to myotherapist although I’m kinda regretting the decision as 1) its time consuming and taking away time from the bachelor and 2) my likely career paths won’t involve any manual therapy
I’ve spoken to ACU and with my current grades I should be able to enter their Masters program for EP after doing a couple of exercise based subjects so the current plan is either that or join the military and get them to pay for a masters in physio.
Either way I’d like to start in a hospital so I’m trying to tee up some placement/observational hours for next year.
Awesome. I hope that you get to do this. Sounds like you are totally committed to getting the best out of yourself and following through with something you believe in 100%.
I am interested to see that you are considering joining the military. Not sure if it has changed since I got out, a lifetime ago, but it used to be that any course or schooling that they paid for required a ROSO of the time doubled. Not that it is a bad thing if you are truly looking to do something for your country and your fellow serving members. What service would you go for? Army, Navy or Airforce?
Good luck in your endeavours. I watch on with interest.
ROSO depends on the degree/qualification
“You will be a full member of the ADF from the start of your sponsorship and once graduated, will be expected to serve for an additional period that depends on the length of your sponsorship. Known as IMPS, this period is calculated on the number of years you have been sponsored at university - plus one year (with a minimum of three years). Generally you begin paying back your IMPS after you graduate from university.
For health specialities you begin paying back your IMPS once you have satisfied your registration and clinical experience consolidation requirements. If you have been sponsored through the Graduate Medical Program, you will be appointed for an Initial Minimum Period of Service of the period of sponsorship (x2) plus an additional 365 days, or until the expiry of your Return of Service Obligation, whichever is greater”
Though it’s my least likely pathway at this stage, I’d definitely go into the Army; can’t swim and I’m not great with motion/heights lol.
The commitment in years isn’t an issue for me (It’d be 4 years if I did physio, 3 years if they accept EP), more the whole I could get stationed anywhere thing.
Exactly what I do is likely to depend on what EPs actually do in a hospital setting, which is why I’m keen to get into one for some placement if at all possible.
I’m far more interested in working with special populations (spinals, post-trauma etc) than the run of the mill patients you’d see in standard private practice physio, chiro etc
The difference/advantage I presume if I was doing EP or physio in the military is that I’d be able to work directly with the troops are lot more than I would working in private practice, though I suspect a high % would be presenting with similar issues to what you’d see in general pop ie not everyone I’d be working with I’d be teaching to walk again or something full on like that
I’ve still got a year and a half to go in my undergrad so plenty of time to do some research and speak to people who are doing the same/similar things to what I’d like to do.
