Health & Fitness

Serious question. Why might you take these supplements. I understand if you have a deficiency as identified by the doctor, but are there benefits to someone who generally is fairly healthy?

Studies show that the more active you are, the more magnesium you need, since you can lose a lot of magnesium through sweat. So, for some runners, supplementing their diet with magnesium tablets simply means that they are giving their bodies the adequate amount of magnesium they need.

Magnesium: Is it a miracle mineral for runners? (runnersworld.com)

Vitamin D, lots of people are deficient due to the amount of time they spend indoors. And in winter time, harder to get it naturally.

Once people get arthritis and other ailments, they probably look and see if vitamins could help or not etc.

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Thanks. Looking at the foods that contain magnesium it seems like it’s fairly straightforward to hit the needs based on diet without needing too much in the way of supplementation, but definitely worth tracking.

I guess I asked, because I am at the age where am starting to get injured more, etc (although to be fair I when young I also managed to get injured a fair bit) and was trying to get ahead of the curve a bit. Asked the doctor about a few supplements and they gave me the ā€œit won’t hurt, and some people swear by them, but the scientific evidence isn’t there at the momentā€. I’m interested in understanding anything about any particular supplements so I can work out whether it might help me, but it’s so hard to even know where to start in the literature and the internet is filled with dubious claims from conflicted sources!!

(Background = runner. Old. Injuries = anything lower leg historically, but did 3 unrelated tendons, only one lower leg, last year, which seemed a strange coincidence)

Thanks for the message @davethedon .
I have done the same thing over the past few months - slowed down and found I could swim continuously. I have gone from doing 60- 65 second laps to 70-76 second laps, and can now do 1 km continuously (apart from a few seconds break to press my watch for the next lap).

You are definitely NOT a poor swimmer in my books!

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Most of the electrolyte powders I’ve used contain a blend of magnesium, potassium and other goodies.

Does the job for my weight training and walking, if you’re running, you may need a specific magnesium supplement for sure.

IMO re supplements / gels etc, Triathletes are basically willing to try anything to get an advantage.

Body builders / weight lifters / cross fitters more likely to use creatine / protein stuff focus on building muscle.

Old school runners never had anything, even going for 30+km training runs just with water…but now science is suggesting need to fuel during these runs, and local runners sometimes fuel for workouts too. And supplements too to manage fatigue address issues.
lots of higher milage runners (150km+wk) can run into Iron issues.
magnesium deficiencies as discussed before due to losing it in sweat.

Age is part of it, not recovering like you used to.
Some of it is marketing for sure.
And some of it might be placebo.

Physio is best bet for lower leg injuries. repetitiveness of them, luck, speed work, too much too soon, fatigue, shoes, maybe diet plays a small part. Tendon injuries seem to take a long time to get right too.

One of my mates has done his calf numerous times in past 12 months and taken a slow recovery building back up with the aim to run enough to get fit for footy season.

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The other thing I forgot to mention was that I watched a video on ā€˜total immersion’ swimming (or similar name). Anyway, I think the reason I had always swum too fast was that I thought you really had to get on top of the water. So there I was, flailing like an idiot, try to keep my front half up in some hopeless effort to ā€˜get on top of the water’, so that my legs were sinking!

The I found out that you intentionally try and sink your chest and, hey presto you legs even out - at least a bit. And now there is no false reason to flail hard. You can swim just as fast or slow as you feel, in control.

The girls in my family are natural swimmers. My son and I swim more like rocks (and not very small ones - we sink, in case there are any Monty python fans!)

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thats a something that swim trainers emphasise for newbies or those returning to swimming, as lots of people legs sink and then have trouble kicking at water level.

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Yes my missus and my daughter have both been swim teachers. I think they just laugh at my swimming!

it’s virtually all marketing

some people get incremental improvements out of a variety of things, but by that point they’ve done the hard yakka and are now flirting with that last 5%

there’s no panacea to fix the human body

(apart from resistance training)

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yet stupidly enough i do take a daily multivitamin that i understand is mostly placebo. but i feel sluggish if i don’t take it, and i’m not willing to look into it properly

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I’ve read a couple of articles on freediving over the last little while, and the bit that always gets me is that after some distance (like 30m down or something) the pressure has crushed your body down to a size that it’s no longer buoyant, so you literally just sink. The freediving videos describe the feeling in positive terms, but that scares the #&$# out of me just to think about it…

Eat clen, tren hard

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Yeah mostly it’s your lungs. But also neoprene if you are wearing it. I used to spearfish. I’d wear a 5 mm hooded suit with long John lower half - so double layer over the torso. Lots of neoprene and took lots of lead to sink - maybe 8-10 kg???

Anyway, I was never that good, but with the combo of lung and neoprene compression, you’d notice the sink at even my normal piddly 20 or so feet. 30 feet is double atmospheric pressure.

I used to plant my feet on the bottom and jump to get momentum before kicking to the surface!

I could only get to 30-40 ft absolute max, there are guys who easily dive to 90, hang around for 1-2 minutes and then slowly fin back up. I’d be gasping for the surface when they were half way down on the descent!

I have a nephew who was once into free diving. He practised breath holding while relaxing flat out in bed. He got up to 7 minutes!

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That is insane!!

I met someone a while back who had gone to 70 metres deep in one breath. I think that stuff scares me more than the Honnold free solo stuff …

…hmm, or maybe just the same

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Funny, that nephew now no longer free dives, but is pretty keen on climbing - Hobart Area.

The thing that freaked me about Honnold was how close to his limit he was. That crux move was I think Aus equivalent grade 28, and his max is only a little above this. And he’s 2000 ft up.

I recall reading about an early gritstone climber who died on a relatively easy route in I think the 50s, when a very solid looking hold just broke off while he was soloing. It’s nuts if you ask me.

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Apparently the world record is 214 metres.

Even if you can train and hold your breath long enough, nitrogen narcosis is a real danger beyond 50m depth. Plenty of scuba divers that dive to 70m depths and beyond, are last seen taking off their masks as they drunkenly swim off to say hi to all the fishies.

A guy I worked with went diving with a group in the bay, and at less than 50m, the guy he was paired with started losing control. My workmate indicated to him that they needed to ascend, but they needed to make stops along the way, to avoid the bends. Meanwhile, his diving partner was over-adjusting his buoyancy up and down, and my workmate was hanging onto him and desperately trying to compensate his own buoyancy to keep him level long enough. In the end, it was becoming so dangerous, he cut the time short, just to get him to the surface more quickly.

Once he was back on the boat and recovered, he was experienced enough to realise how dangerous it had been, and thanked my workmate over and over. It turned out, he was just stressed from work, and even for a relatively experienced diver, that was all it took for him to act erratically enough to have killed himself at the lower end of deep diving.

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Eat clen, Tren hard, Anavar give up

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hey did anyone else know that you can fk up a toe ligament doing barbell squats?

Mate, do you even lift?

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