Because even those who oppose it, somewhere in their minds, hope it ends up being the right decision.
I just fail to see how essendon people can move on so quickly from the biggest capitulation by the club ever.
Benfti = wilson's "love" child?All the hallmarks of a Fairfax hack.
Spin spin spin spin
On the AFL payroll soon (already?)
You are joking I hope.
Ben and I disagree on some things, but he is a fine Bomber person with more credibility than you will ever have.
You live up to your name.
“fine Bomber person” - If the cap fits …like Little, Evans, Mr Wilson…?
Unlike it seems the man who was sacked on Tuesday.
I like the way you defend his right to snipe but not those who respond.
I’ve always tried to live a blob life - it is reassuring to know success has come.
The difference is Mr Blob, that I know benfti and unlike a lot of people, I stick up for my mates. Just like I have always stuck up for James Hird.
and for the record, I strongly disagree with this post from benfti
“One man is not going to unite the club, that happens when everyone who is there starts to pull in the same direction, fans included”
because I would argue that James Hird united the Club like no time in 50 of watching the Bombers; Sheedy went close but not like we have seen with James.
If you disagree with his post - attack him not me.
I was commenting upon the “line” he has been running incessantly for several weeks to ensure that Hird was sacked.
In case you haven’t noticed Wilson and Fairfax have been doing this on the AFL’s behalf for 3 years.
I merely pointed out the similarity albeit somewhat pointedly. I do not believe that was reprehensible but if you do so be it.
I think it is fair comment and very mild given what has been going on - I only compared him to the chief football writer of a Melbourne newspaper (surely a person of great integrity).
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Any talk of not renewing membership etc etc as a show of dislike of current decisions is going to hurt the club more.I think of the club as my own family and if one of your kids makes a poor decisions, do you throw them out? Do you help them? Do you provide support?
Regardless of what has happened, I will continue to support the club in spirit and in membership. I don’t agree Hird going was the right decision, but will ‘accept it’ and move on. Let’s be part of the future greatness!
The best description I’ve read here is that the EFC is like being in an abusive relationship. We love it & we continually put our emotions out there to be played with in the hope that some day it loves us back or at least loves us as much as we thought it used to . At some point however you need to walk away from these types of relationships even if only for a short enough time to heal or re-assess what it is you expect from the relationship. Right now I honestly don’t know if I will ever have the same passion for the club again. That hurts more than it should.
I’ve grown up with this club. My father was a foundation member of the social club & much of my earliest memories involve the club. We never missed a game, rain hail or shine at Windy hill, Lakeside oval, that shyteheap at Moorabbin or the bus out to Waverley where I would have my duffle coat pockets filled with whisky flasks as they never searched kids . Dad even knew some of the players back then (lived with one for a while) & many hours were spent after games at the social club (Space Invaders got a workout). I can remember being a kid 8-9ish running around the feet of the players in the disco upstairs at Windy Hill (can you imagine the OH&S of that now). I remember standing on empty beer cans in the outer at the Western Oval to watch the game, I remember helping make the banner for the 84/85 grand finals, I remember walking round the ground at halftime being pelted with coins to collect money for the cheersquad. I remember the day Simon Madden picked me up off my feet to sign the back of my jumper. In later life I was there in 1990 for the disappointment & then 3 years later for a miracle from nowhere.
Along the way there have been great highs, I know the club has given me more joy than most other clubs could but its not the lack of success for the past 15 years that hurts. Its the feeling & maybe even call it realisation now, that the club that I love is no longer. The club that I felt a part of now feels like its my insurance company or my bank - takes money to provide a service. I get that many here don’t understand the connection some others do feel or felt towards the club. You may not have grown up riding your bike after school to go watch training, you may not live close enough to go week after week & arrange your winter life around the football fixture or you may even live far enough away that nobody you work with or catch up with follows the footy & talks about it day after day. You may have never had to tell people “I can’t come to your wedding because we are playing Carlton” In that instance I can only imagine its a lot easier to have genuine disconnect from the emotion of whats happened. When Melbourne Storm lost premierships I was disappointed but ultimately it had little to no effect on me because although the Storm are my team, I don’t follow NRL anywhere near the same level as AFL. Maybe now I need to view EFC like I do the Storm. I don’t know if I can do that (can you still be friends with an Ex after a nasty break up) & I certainly don’t think that’s a good thing for the club when its passionate supporters lose faith. I haven’t missed a game against Collingwood since 1980. I can’t contemplate going anywhere near a game in the near future & for the 1st time in my life I honestly have no idea when we play this week. I’m sure to some that sounds ridiculous to have invested so heavily in the club but it is what it is. Some people paint, some people love cars, some people obsess over their appearance. My passion was the EFC. Maybe its time it became more of an interest.
Your problem stems years ago when travelling along the road of passion, you missed the signpost that said “passion, but now proceed with perspective”.
I think you missed the signpost that said “empathy, but now proceed with compassion”.
Benfti = wilson's "love" child?All the hallmarks of a Fairfax hack.
Spin spin spin spin
On the AFL payroll soon (already?)
You are joking I hope.
Ben and I disagree on some things, but he is a fine Bomber person with more credibility than you will ever have.
You live up to your name.
“fine Bomber person” - If the cap fits …like Little, Evans, Mr Wilson…?
Unlike it seems the man who was sacked on Tuesday.
I like the way you defend his right to snipe but not those who respond.
I’ve always tried to live a blob life - it is reassuring to know success has come.
The difference is Mr Blob, that I know benfti and unlike a lot of people, I stick up for my mates. Just like I have always stuck up for James Hird.
and for the record, I strongly disagree with this post from benfti
“One man is not going to unite the club, that happens when everyone who is there starts to pull in the same direction, fans included”
because I would argue that James Hird united the Club like no time in 50 of watching the Bombers; Sheedy went close but not like we have seen with James.
Any talk of not renewing membership etc etc as a show of dislike of current decisions is going to hurt the club more.I think of the club as my own family and if one of your kids makes a poor decisions, do you throw them out? Do you help them? Do you provide support?
Regardless of what has happened, I will continue to support the club in spirit and in membership. I don’t agree Hird going was the right decision, but will ‘accept it’ and move on. Let’s be part of the future greatness!
The best description I’ve read here is that the EFC is like being in an abusive relationship. We love it & we continually put our emotions out there to be played with in the hope that some day it loves us back or at least loves us as much as we thought it used to . At some point however you need to walk away from these types of relationships even if only for a short enough time to heal or re-assess what it is you expect from the relationship. Right now I honestly don’t know if I will ever have the same passion for the club again. That hurts more than it should.
I’ve grown up with this club. My father was a foundation member of the social club & much of my earliest memories involve the club. We never missed a game, rain hail or shine at Windy hill, Lakeside oval, that shyteheap at Moorabbin or the bus out to Waverley where I would have my duffle coat pockets filled with whisky flasks as they never searched kids . Dad even knew some of the players back then (lived with one for a while) & many hours were spent after games at the social club (Space Invaders got a workout). I can remember being a kid 8-9ish running around the feet of the players in the disco upstairs at Windy Hill (can you imagine the OH&S of that now). I remember standing on empty beer cans in the outer at the Western Oval to watch the game, I remember helping make the banner for the 84/85 grand finals, I remember walking round the ground at halftime being pelted with coins to collect money for the cheersquad. I remember the day Simon Madden picked me up off my feet to sign the back of my jumper. In later life I was there in 1990 for the disappointment & then 3 years later for a miracle from nowhere.
Along the way there have been great highs, I know the club has given me more joy than most other clubs could but its not the lack of success for the past 15 years that hurts. Its the feeling & maybe even call it realisation now, that the club that I love is no longer. The club that I felt a part of now feels like its my insurance company or my bank - takes money to provide a service. I get that many here don’t understand the connection some others do feel or felt towards the club. You may not have grown up riding your bike after school to go watch training, you may not live close enough to go week after week & arrange your winter life around the football fixture or you may even live far enough away that nobody you work with or catch up with follows the footy & talks about it day after day. You may have never had to tell people “I can’t come to your wedding because we are playing Carlton” In that instance I can only imagine its a lot easier to have genuine disconnect from the emotion of whats happened. When Melbourne Storm lost premierships I was disappointed but ultimately it had little to no effect on me because although the Storm are my team, I don’t follow NRL anywhere near the same level as AFL. Maybe now I need to view EFC like I do the Storm. I don’t know if I can do that (can you still be friends with an Ex after a nasty break up) & I certainly don’t think that’s a good thing for the club when its passionate supporters lose faith. I haven’t missed a game against Collingwood since 1980. I can’t contemplate going anywhere near a game in the near future & for the 1st time in my life I honestly have no idea when we play this week. I’m sure to some that sounds ridiculous to have invested so heavily in the club but it is what it is. Some people paint, some people love cars, some people obsess over their appearance. My passion was the EFC. Maybe its time it became more of an interest.
Your problem stems years ago when travelling along the road of passion, you missed the signpost that said “passion, but now proceed with perspective”.
won thing that hird could not come to combat is when opppistion coach put a spare man in out forward line he didn't man up spare person just look at the games against crow and north melbourne both gameSpoken like a true board plant.
And obviously a university trained person.
DansDans said:i understand that my question to you the other night got lost in all the other post’s.
So will ask again,
What are we moving forward to?
Another phase in Essendon’s history - isnt that what every wants?
Thanks for responding.
Yes we all want another phase, a good phase, but til WADA and CAS is over, we cannot start another phase.
You are absolutely right, however hopefully be the time preseason rolls around the CAS hearing will be done, we will have a brand new club with nothing hanging over their heads.
That’s a fresh start right there
Except Sunshine, the reaming of our favorite Son and still a gray away strip !
"A"favourite son.There is a couple still on the list right now, one on the board, and a fair few others on the fringes. Essendon is bigger than just James Hird
That’s not the point. Essendon should be bigger than the rotten things going on in the AFL atm but they have demonstrated they aren’t, they are just as bad. Hird stood for a principle, and the club s$%t on it.
won thing that hird could not come to combat is when opppistion coach put a spare man in out forward line he didn't man up spare person just look at the games against crow and north melbourne both gameSpoken like a true board plant.
Yep, that's at the heart of the issue shane.
He’s half right, except the spare man that got him was somewhere in the club.
Screw (new) Essendon.
it seems a lot of people are having trouble with showing their support of the club, but not the decision to axe Hird. At the moment it’s hard to do one without doing the other.
Benfti has been pushing for Lloyd so much, I've wondered if he was indigenousI’ve always assumed Ben is indigenous. He’s not?
He’s the only white person who wishes they were black more than I do.
won thing that hird could not come to combat is when opppistion coach put a spare man in out forward line he didn’t man up spare person just look at the games against crow and north melbourne both game
Yeah, support the club financially and just as importantly make sure everyone gets to their last 2 Melbourne games of the year. Essendon are likely to get flogged but lets make the last 2 weeks a celebration of the club moving forward. It will be a massive show of support and further reinforce the view in the players mind that Essendon supporters are truly the best! C'mon, now is the time to really show you care!We’ve only got 1 home game left.
But 2 in Melbourne HAP that all supporters can attend. See you guys there!
Yep, that’s at the heart of the issue shane.
Any talk of not renewing membership etc etc as a show of dislike of current decisions is going to hurt the club more.I think of the club as my own family and if one of your kids makes a poor decisions, do you throw them out? Do you help them? Do you provide support?
Regardless of what has happened, I will continue to support the club in spirit and in membership. I don’t agree Hird going was the right decision, but will ‘accept it’ and move on. Let’s be part of the future greatness!
The best description I’ve read here is that the EFC is like being in an abusive relationship. We love it & we continually put our emotions out there to be played with in the hope that some day it loves us back or at least loves us as much as we thought it used to . At some point however you need to walk away from these types of relationships even if only for a short enough time to heal or re-assess what it is you expect from the relationship. Right now I honestly don’t know if I will ever have the same passion for the club again. That hurts more than it should.
I’ve grown up with this club. My father was a foundation member of the social club & much of my earliest memories involve the club. We never missed a game, rain hail or shine at Windy hill, Lakeside oval, that shyteheap at Moorabbin or the bus out to Waverley where I would have my duffle coat pockets filled with whisky flasks as they never searched kids . Dad even knew some of the players back then (lived with one for a while) & many hours were spent after games at the social club (Space Invaders got a workout). I can remember being a kid 8-9ish running around the feet of the players in the disco upstairs at Windy Hill (can you imagine the OH&S of that now). I remember standing on empty beer cans in the outer at the Western Oval to watch the game, I remember helping make the banner for the 84/85 grand finals, I remember walking round the ground at halftime being pelted with coins to collect money for the cheersquad. I remember the day Simon Madden picked me up off my feet to sign the back of my jumper. In later life I was there in 1990 for the disappointment & then 3 years later for a miracle from nowhere.
Along the way there have been great highs, I know the club has given me more joy than most other clubs could but its not the lack of success for the past 15 years that hurts. Its the feeling & maybe even call it realisation now, that the club that I love is no longer. The club that I felt a part of now feels like its my insurance company or my bank - takes money to provide a service. I get that many here don’t understand the connection some others do feel or felt towards the club. You may not have grown up riding your bike after school to go watch training, you may not live close enough to go week after week & arrange your winter life around the football fixture or you may even live far enough away that nobody you work with or catch up with follows the footy & talks about it day after day. You may have never had to tell people “I can’t come to your wedding because we are playing Carlton” In that instance I can only imagine its a lot easier to have genuine disconnect from the emotion of whats happened. When Melbourne Storm lost premierships I was disappointed but ultimately it had little to no effect on me because although the Storm are my team, I don’t follow NRL anywhere near the same level as AFL. Maybe now I need to view EFC like I do the Storm. I don’t know if I can do that (can you still be friends with an Ex after a nasty break up) & I certainly don’t think that’s a good thing for the club when its passionate supporters lose faith. I haven’t missed a game against Collingwood since 1980. I can’t contemplate going anywhere near a game in the near future & for the 1st time in my life I honestly have no idea when we play this week. I’m sure to some that sounds ridiculous to have invested so heavily in the club but it is what it is. Some people paint, some people love cars, some people obsess over their appearance. My passion was the EFC. Maybe its time it became more of an interest.
Benfti has been pushing for Lloyd so much, I've wondered if he was indigenous
I’ve always assumed Ben is indigenous. He’s not?
I love how the Asaga thread has turned every spanner that can barley spell their own names into a detective. Fantastic.Written and spoken by someone who (and the cat) wears a tin foil hat.
Sorry “Your Team” couldn’t resist and jesting, lol.
Haha no offence taken - that’s not me!
It’s how I picture people talking about afl infiltration and the like
Anyone else get the feeling there's a few club/board plants going hard in here since Hirdy got the shaft?Obvious as dogs balls on a cat.
Don’t be so dramatic.Some with contacts are obviously being spun a line - SLloyd will unite us all yada yada, don’t worry about the board it’s all OK. Posters have pretty much confirmed as much.
Obviously one person or group of power brokers are selling that as the way forward. Doesn’t mean they have the sway to make it happen, or that the plan would come off.
Hate to break up the conspiracy theory…But who has said that S Lloyd will unite the club?
One poster looked for some info on him As our player mindset issues would be unique. He didn’t say he would unite the club.
It’s a silly statement and I don’t see how the club can be united again. It’ll be different but not united.Who has said that the board is ok?
Quote “Outsiders have a problem at our club, unless they were as charismatic as Sheeds.
Lloyd would be able to be both an outsider, and with the assistance of his brother get the numerous forces on side. …All 3 Lloyds are beautifully complemented to fix our onfield performance and off field factions”
And some quote about picking off the board over the next 2-3 years so as not to lose the good guys.Not really much of a stretch here: poster said he’d asked some people. And then came back saying all this.
Theory: 2+2=4Call me crazy.
On the Lloyd’s…
Could quite possibly be an opinion. But that would never occur on a fan forum…
Do you seriously think the board would get fans emotions back up to defend a particular coaching candidate before any interviews or short lists have been compiled? Imagine the fall out when we end up taking someone else if that were true.
Picking off the board one by one so as not to lose the good guys…
It’s a reality of the situation is it not? You could overthrow the board (which is most likely currently underway) or vote them out one by one. I think you added the last part for flavour.
I think you’re more like 2+2=5 but if I ignore a little bit then add a little bit here I can make it equal 4 and I get the result I’m looking for. Yay me!