Media reporting D Trump has scheduled a phone call to M Turnbull tomorrow morning. Chinese state media reportedly very critical of M Turnbull’s comments on China’s responsibility toward N Korea and specifically the claim that China should cut off oil supply.
I was reading about Elon Musk fearing that AI would bring about WW3. Clearly not reading many papers right now. Lil Kim is already selling commemorative coffee cups.
Wouldnt be a bad thing if Kim jnr became eligible for the Celebrity Death thread asap.
I wonder if there’s anything to make of the fact that Musk is more than fine with technology that can take the place of lower wage workers mining, industry etc but ■■■■■ his pants when it’s a tech smart enough to take his job
Struggling to comprehend the DACA call by Trump. It would seem to feed only the most extreme of his right wing supporters. Those he won from the middle are going to struggle with it.
Houston is still under water, with Puerto Rico and chunks of Florida likely to join it by the end of the week. Meanwhile, Rush Limbaugh is claiming that hurricanes are a leftist conspiracy to promote the global warming hoax.
Heard about this. He made his point by questioning why they always seem to happen in coastal areas and not inland. That’s not just crazy, that’s spectacularly stoooopid.
bwahahaha, now that entertainment! Maybe he can move to one of those conspiracy places and feel the conspiracy first hand.
If the people advocating for action on climate change had such awesome powers as that then they wouldn’t need to resort to hoaxes. They could make it real, and then demand action. Maybe that is what has happened!
According to some nutters they do have that much power. They have secret machines to control the weather to make it look like climate change is happening. No, really.
Seriously. Genuine white jacket, call the nurses stuff.
Oooh, kicking and screaming, please.
Sad thing is that so many people will believe it
Did Bernie win?
The Way to Make North Korea Back Down
By SUNG-YOON LEESEPT. 6, 2017
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After Sunday’s nuclear test, the most powerful yet, and two successful intercontinental missile tests in July, North Korea can credibly threaten to nuke a major United States city and kill millions of Americans. To date, the Trump administration, frustrated by its misplaced hopes of Chinese cooperation to restrain Pyongyang, has been reduced to empty bluster, while others, including a senior official in the previous administration, are resigned to living with a nuclear-armed regime on the Korean Peninsula.
But a nuclear North Korea is unlike a nuclear China or Russia. During the Cold War, neither Beijing nor Moscow faced an existential threat in the form of an alternate Chinese or Russian state. Pyongyang, on the other hand, has had to live with a far more prosperous and legitimate Korean state across its southern border.
This internal dynamic of the Korean Peninsula compels Pyongyang to continue to threaten war and perfect its weapons of mass destruction. The regime’s logic is that the more advanced its nuclear capability, the less likely the United States will be to defend South Korea at the risk of sacrificing millions of American lives at home.
Hence, for the North, menacing the United States is a nonnegotiable means of isolating and exercising dominance over Seoul. This is how the regime of Kim Jong-un seeks to ensure its long-term survival.
President Kim Jong-un of North Korea, center, before a nuclear test at an undisclosed location, according to North Korea’s state-run news agency. Credit Korean Central News Agency
This latest nuclear blast, during America’s Labor Day weekend, shows that Pyongyang is less interested in reaping concessions from the international community than in sticking to its playbook of strategic provocations. It seeks maximum political impact by conducting carefully timed weapons tests. The pattern of the United States’ tepid response to these affronts has been to apply incremental sanctions to get Pyongyang to back off a bit and then to defuse tension.
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Pyongyang’s provocations, which have been followed by disingenuous talks about denuclearization, have often also won generous blandishments from its adversaries, including at least $10 billion from Seoul and $1.3 billion from Washington over the past 20 years or so. With good reason, Pyongyang sees itself as wielding both a carrot and a stick. Even now, despite solid American support for the South, North Korea is able to pressure Seoul into selective censorship.
Whether North Korea can induce Washington to abandon Seoul or embrace a nuclear North Korea, the security of the rich, risk-averse South will be increasingly compromised either way. The only nonmilitary means of forestalling this ominous trajectory of events is for the United States to enforce both American and United Nations sanctions against the North Korean regime and its enablers, the foremost of which remains China.
Thanks to the strength of the dollar, Washington has the means to create severe financial hardship for Pyongyang. For far too long, the United States has shied away from shutting off the Kim regime’s sources of money and matériel, let alone sanctioning its Chinese partners. This has been out of concern that Pyongyang might escalate its aggression or that Beijing would adopt retaliatory economic measures. These fears are unfounded: North Korea escalates tension according to its own timetable, while China shows restraint in the face of legitimate financial measures.
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There is therefore a compelling case to isolate Pyongyang economically. This would include levying hefty fines on the Chinese banks that, unwittingly or otherwise, launder money for Pyongyang and facilitate dollar transactions on behalf of North Korean entities. A useful ripple effect from such action can be expected. In the past, China’s biggest financial institutions have voluntarily ceased transfers with banks, both North Korean and Chinese, that have been designated by the United States as involved in money laundering.
In June, the United States identified the Bank of Dandong as a money-laundering concern. Deprived of plausible deniability, Beijing has neither protested vociferously nor retaliated. The same was true when the United States charged four Chinese nationals affiliated with the Dandong Hongxiang Industrial Development Company last year with money laundering; Beijing responded by arresting the head of the company and several other executives.
The test for President Donald Trump will be to refrain from any impulse to relax sanctions prematurely when faced with the next major provocation by Pyongyang. And it will come. North Korea sees itself as a revolutionary state that cannot live as the permanently inferior Korean nation.
Since the Kim regime is governed by the need to dominate South Korea by threatening the region with nuclear annihilation, its willingness to use its lethal powers will only grow unless it is confronted by the specter of bankruptcy and the consequent destabilization of its rule. While reassuring American allies South Korea and Japan of the United States’ steadfast commitment to their defense, the Trump administration should also persuade Seoul and Tokyo not to fall for the same trap of settling for an illusory peace in the face of Pyongyang’s intimidation.
Rather than issuing empty threats or blaming others, the Trump administration should work on becoming a credible financial threat to the Kim regime. Only then will the United States be in a position to negotiate from a position of strength, an entirely feasible feat that has nevertheless eluded every administration to date. Only then will the Trump administration have offset the futility of American diplomacy over the past quarter-century by the kind of resolute action that will save lives.
So glad this thread is back. Here is my attempt at a recap of the deleted one (RIP):
- Election coming up - look at these candidates
- That joker Trump is too funny!
- Bernie speaks sense but Hillary has the Dem nomination locked
- What the heck, Trump won the nomination? Hillary will slay him!
- Emails! Forced grabbing of genitalia! Won’t some one think of the children?!?!
- RANDOM fivethirtyeight.com SCREENGRABS
- WHAT THE ACTUAL F?!?!? HE WON?!? FAKE NEWS!
- RUSSIA launches TSAR WARS: A NEW DOPE now showing in Washington DC
- Depression (on many sides) + Trolling (on some, ahem trippppppaaa)
- Well, nazis marching in a nuclear winter may not be so bad after all
You left out the Seth Rich conspiracy loons.
The number 1 taxed country in the world, according to Trump.
And the Seth Rogen conspiracy loons. Yes, really.
What is he/they about?