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#6427

The world is regretting that his parents didn’t too.


#6428

McCain passed away. A voice of reason on the republican side over the last few years. They certainly need more of that.


#6429

Trump prefers his Senators living


#6430

John McCain’s final message for the President

Analysis by Stephen Collinson, CNN

Updated 1627 GMT (0027 HKT) August 27, 2018

(CNN)John McCain and President Donald Trump are not done with one another yet.

Days of mourning for the Arizona senator, including a lying-in-state in the Capitol Rotunda and the pomp of a service in Washington’s National Cathedral, are certain to become about more than simply honoring a singular political leader and national hero.

In Washington, even death is political – a fact McCain well understood as a sought-after eulogizer himself, and by planning his funeral rites to exclude the President, he will be making an unmistakable posthumous statement directed at the White House.

Tributes for McCain and the lauding of his courage, honor, decency, character, and readiness to reexamine his own mistakes will unfold at a time when Trump is facing an unflattering public debate about his own personality and behavior. The guilty plea by the President’s former personal lawyer Michael Cohen and conviction of former campaign chairman Paul Manafort last week deepened the political and legal storm raging around the White House – but still did not push most Republican leaders to criticize Trump.

In that context, the ceremonies marking McCain’s passing seem sure to become more than a lament for a departed political giant. They are likely to become a debate about political morality and the comportment and principles expected of public figures in an already polarized political age that has been further roiled by Trump’s disruptive influence.

After two losing presidential campaigns, McCain never made it to the Oval Office – yet he is getting an emotional sendoff and assessment that might befit one of the men who did become President.

Sen. John McCain to lie in state. Here's what that means

Sen. John McCain to lie in state. Here’s what that means

CNN has reported that McCain chose Barack Obama and George W. Bush – the two men who kept him from the White House – to eulogize him and didn’t want the President to attend his funeral. If those plans hold, McCain will be sending a clear final message to Trump, after making clear when he was alive that he saw the President’s demeanor, populist style and global outlook as antithetical to America’s founding values and global role.

The antipathy between the Arizona senator and the President has not been stilled by his death on Saturday from brain cancer.

What the President says and doesn’t say

In normal circumstances, a President could be expected to issue a fulsome written statement to mark the passing of such an important political figure. Trump simply wrote a tweet, and while members of his immediate family praised McCain’s character and contribution, he did not.

The Washington Post reported on Sunday that Trump decided against issuing a statement praising McCain’s Senate career and military service as a Vietnam prisoner of war. The paper said that press secretary Sarah Sanders and White House chief of staff John Kelly advocated calling the Arizona senator a “hero.”

Washington Post: Trump opted against sending official statement praising McCain

Washington Post: Trump opted against sending official statement praising McCain

“My deepest sympathies and respect go out to the family of Senator John McCain. Our hearts and prayers are with you!” Trump wrote on Twitter.

McCain’s service at the National Cathedral may well become the biggest meeting of the political establishment and visiting global elites so far seen during the Trump presidency. The President’s absence and failure to lead a grateful nation in mourning would, for McCain, eloquently reflect the fracture with the traditional ruling classes that he successfully made the focus of his 2016 campaign and that has become a motif of his presidency.

But Mark Salter, McCain’s longtime speechwriter and confidant, told NBC’s Savannah Guthrie Monday that the senator’s circle did not want the week to become all about the President.

“I’m going to try very hard not to think or talk about Donald Trump for this week and just do what I can to help make sure John is buried with the honors and decorum he’s earned from years of faithful service to this country,” Salter said.

Not being invited to preside over a great national occasion will surely sting for a man like Trump, who relishes the theatrics of the presidency. Still, there might be a political upside, since some of his devoted base voters viewed McCain as a political relic, especially following the President’s frequent attacks on the Arizona senator.

Putting the debate about Trump’s behavior aside, the gathering of establishment clans may also serve as an epitaph not just for McCain, but for the brand of conservatism that he favored. McCain, a Cold Warrior, was a disciple of President Ronald Reagan and adopted the later neoconservative assertiveness of the George W. Bush years.

Trump, by contrast, has cozied up to Vladimir Putin, the former KGB man who is seeking to revive some of Russia’s Soviet-era influence. The President has hammered Western institutions like NATO and the European Union that helped win the Cold War, he decries the Middle East conflicts that McCain advocated, and he believes the global trading system is rigged against the United States.

Weeks before a midterm elections, and with the next presidential race already stirring, remembrances of McCain will showcase the kind of values and policies that the Republican icon shared with his establishment contemporaries.

Public remembrance with subtle – and not so subtle – jabs

But given that the current President’s ideas on issues like trade and the use of US power abroad are also reflected in the grass roots of Democratic politics, there’s a case to be made that it is Trump, and not the congregation in the National Cathedral that will include many former politicians who have the luxury of not worrying about public opinion, who best reflects the current sentiment among voters.

Tributes paid to McCain in the United States by every significant political figure – bar one, the President – and by foreign leaders highlighted his character, his courage, his willingness to find common ground across the political aisle, and above all his desire to serve a cause greater than himself. All of those themes are likely to dominate the next few days as McCain’s funeral observances unfold.

Sen. McCain will be honored this week for five days in three cities

Sen. McCain will be honored this week for five days in three cities

“Few of us have been tested the way John once was, or required to show the kind of courage that he did,” Obama wrote in a statement issued minutes after McCain’s passing was announced on Saturday evening. “But all of us can aspire to the courage to put the greater good above our own. At John’s best, he showed us what that means.”

Former President George W. Bush called McCain a man of deep conviction, a “patriot of the highest order” and a “public servant in the finest traditions of our country.”

Leaders of foreign nations where McCain was a familiar sight during his frenetic decades of global travel noted his commitment to the Atlantic alliance, his support for human rights, and his unshakeable commitment to shared Western values.

“John McCain - soldier and senator, American and Atlanticist. He will be remembered both in Europe and North America for his courage and character, and as a strong supporter of NATO,” the Western alliance’s secretary general, Jens Stoltenberg, wrote in a tweet.

McCain’s former sparring partners like John Kerry, Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton all weighed in, reflecting the affection they felt for a man with whom they often disagreed, but whose biography and personal touch made him an American hero.

Each tribute can be read at face value, as specifically applying only to McCain. But to look no deeper would ignore the inflamed political climate raging in the second year of the Trump presidency and the roots of the feud between the Arizona senator and the 45th President.

When comparisons are drawn between the President and McCain, Trump’s supporters are certain to accuse the media and his critics of exploiting McCain’s death to aim what they will view as yet another unfair attack on the commander-in-chief.

But many of the tributes to McCain from the establishment politicians with whom he felt comfortable can also be read as commentaries on the importance of character in public life and America’s mission and global role, and therefore as subtle, implicit criticisms of the conduct and attitudes of the man in the Oval Office himself.

After all, many of Trump’s critics have long argued that he lacks the character needed of a President, a narrative that gathered pace last week as the legal woes mounted, threatening his presidency. A persistent criticism has been that Trump disdains the altruistic and patriotic motives that Obama saw in McCain and instead feeds his own ego in a search for personal recognition.

In Europe, there is deep concern about Trump’s commitment to Western values and NATO – so it is impossible to read tributes to McCain from people like Stoltenberg in any other context.

The feud begins

In many ways, the antagonism between Trump and McCain represents a microcosm of the change that the former New York businessman identified and then exploited within the GOP.

When candidate Trump said back in 2015 that he didn’t consider McCain a war hero because he was captured in Vietnam, most political observers predicted that he had just buried his White House hopes by insulting the sacrifice of a man who was tortured in the infamous Hanoi Hilton prison after being shot down during the war.

But the fact that Trump refused to apologize, and even prospered in the wake of the furor was an early sign that he understood the changing dynamics of the Republican Party better than anyone else, and was in the early stages of a successful takeover bid.

McCain felt until the end of his life that Trump represents a historical anomaly and a diversion from America’s traditional leadership. He maintained that core American values would reassert themselves.

“Increasingly, we have our own facts to reinforce our convictions and any empirical evidence that disputes them is branded as ‘fake,’” McCain wrote in his just-published book “The Restless Wave.”

That was a clear swipe at Trump, but also one at the political polarization that has made Washington so dysfunctional.

His last goodbye this week is likely to become an extended argument that for America to succeed, such conditions must not be allowed to prevail.


#6431

Was watching some US News last night, CNN, ABC, MSNBC etc, and although I know it has seemed like it before, … it really does feel like Drumpf has got the walls closing in on him now, … and is just losing it, … apparently more freaked out and angry than ever.

Manafort has floated taking a plea deal, … specifically not invited to McCains funeral , put the flag at the WH back up from half mast just one day later, as per rules but defying the norm & convention, in a petty vindictive small man act of vengeange & disrespect,… and got pilloried from nearly everyone Including Veterans until he backed off and lowered it again, … Cohens Plea deal, a leaked list of 100 charges the Dems will prosecute if/when in control, which is looking more and more likely, with polls indicating not a Blue Wave, but a fking Tsunami, and his antics with the flag losing him even more support, … amongst many other things, BIG things, … BIGGEST!!

It really does feel like the end game for this crooked loud mouthed Clown is almost afoot.


#6432

It’s seems like he’s been backed into a corner. Either he pardons them and faces the consequences or he doesn’t and the spill the beans.


#6433

I’d say a few steps to go yet.

I’m guessing Don Jr and Kushner will be targeted first to really tighten the screws on him.


#6434

That’s the thing, … Cohens already flipped, … and Manafort,… facing 80 years jail just on what he’s already been convicted of,… and with 2 trials still to go, is reportedly ignoring any promises of a Pardon, and flipping anyway.

Cohen has also admitted he committed a crime re Campaign finance laws, at the behest of and with explicit instructions from Trump to do so.

Pardons are irrelevant in those circumstances.

The convictions and flippings have also vindicated Mueller and his investigation, and has quelled all the Witch Hunt bullshit and put slabs of egg on the faces of the FOXwitz.


#6435

There are some pundits who still think Cohen could be angling for Presidential intervention


#6436

I await Trump to ‘flip’ to save his ■■■ and jail his kids.


#6437

USA USA USA


#6438

Fkg LOL!


#6439

Sorry, but are we really criticising someone just because they decided to colour something in in a fanciful way? Seems mature.


#6440

Yeah. Meh. The guy has done some things truly worth worrying about. A colour in mistake is the least of those worries.


#6441

While that flag incident is pretty stupid, he’s got some way to go to catch Bush; "There’s an old saying in Tennessee — I know it’s in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can’t get fooled again.’

George W. Bush

Among others…


#6442

We don’t even know if it was a mistake. Maybe he thinks the traditional flag colours are boring.


#6443

Maybe he just made a mistake.


#6444

Its a photo op. He’s just randomly colouring stuff for the cameras.

I’m pretty sure the article is satire.

Look at the authors other articles

https://www.newsweek.com/authors/benjamin-fearnow


#6445

There was a British comedy show where they had ace comedians lined up to make funny statements by completing sentences started by a few of GW’s words.

The funny thing is that none of them were as funny as the outrageously stupid things that that farkwit actually said.

My favourite:

"On Friday, Feb. 29, 2000, George W. Bush gave a speech about energy policy, and said that he would not support the removal of energy-producing dams simply because they endangered fish.

“I know the human being and fish can …”

[This was where the Pommy comedians tried to think up something funny and stupid enough for him to have said]…

This is what he said:

“…coexist peacefully,”

At least that explains why he did not declare an illegal war on fish.


#6446

I thought we were simply laughing at a fkn Buffoon, and the level of sublime stupid.??