Match review. Dreamtime

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Every game against Richmond in the past few years has been awful to watch and last night no exception. Their chipping around is Crap to watch and it’s boring football. No wonder the crowd was flat for most of the game

As others have pointed out, we lost because we took the game on but our skills weren’t good enough and we turned it over too often. Most of their opportunities came from our mistakes.

Also why is it that in the back is only paid when it’s done with the hands? Three times in the tigers forward 50 they jumped into an essendon players back and pushed out with the legs. The one on tippa in the last was a disgrace it wasn’t paid.

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Every game against Richmond in the past few years has been awful to watch and last night no exception. Their chipping around is Crap to watch and it's boring football. No wonder the crowd was flat for most of the game

As others have pointed out, we lost because we took the game on but our skills weren’t good enough and we turned it over too often. Most of their opportunities came from our mistakes.

Also why is it that in the back is only paid when it’s done with the hands? Three times in the tigers forward 50 they jumped into an essendon players back and pushed out with the legs. The one on tippa in the last was a disgrace it wasn’t paid.

One of the many many oddities of the game. A palm on the back is a free kick - running full pelt, leaping up and kicking someone in the head is ok, so long as you grab the ball. It looks great.

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Every game against Richmond in the past few years has been awful to watch and last night no exception. Their chipping around is Crap to watch and it's boring football. No wonder the crowd was flat for most of the game

As others have pointed out, we lost because we took the game on but our skills weren’t good enough and we turned it over too often. Most of their opportunities came from our mistakes.

Also why is it that in the back is only paid when it’s done with the hands? Three times in the tigers forward 50 they jumped into an essendon players back and pushed out with the legs. The one on tippa in the last was a disgrace it wasn’t paid.

Agree. Richmond have become the most boring team in the comp to watch. Playing a style that will see them hover around 6-12th each year but never higher. After we scored those quick goals in the 4th… they then just played keepings off for the last 20 minutes to create a snorefest of epic proportions. I guess their supporters don’t mind as long as they get to see wins… but I just can’t see why you would bother to rock up and watch a bunch of mediocre hacks kick it 15m to each other unopposed on the backline.

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Handball happy which creates pressure with each handball.

Would love to try Tippa on a wing if we could.

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I know this is the match review thread, but I just want to have a lengthy rant about this ridiculous Saturday night commentary team.

Brian Taylor - An idiot. Rarely calls the game, simply rabbits on relentlessly about everything that enters his small mind other than what is happening right in front of him on the ground. Football is a side note for him, I think he finds the games boring/uninteresting and he genuinely believes he is a funny guy so he aims for what he would consider to be the hysterical one liner or the old rhyming slang. I can’t stand listening to his stupidity and he makes me hate watching football.

Luke Darcy - As thick as two bricks and twice as thick. He spends the entire night looking to bounce his level and version of humour off his hilarious mate Brian. Every now and then will mention something that is happening on the field, usually only talks about the flavour of the month player in Cyril, RANCE, Franklin or Cyril and I think every Saturday night wouldn’t know the names of all of the players out on the field. Usually aims for making an ‘insightful’ comment but generally comes off as sounding stupid (example I’ve posted earlier in this thread). Makes me want to mute my TV then punch myself in the groin until the pain down below makes me forget all about how much I hate football commentary.

Matthew ‘Richo’ Richardson - The low IQ, comic relief, Blokey ex footy player who clearly knows someone in the right place to continue in his employ. Comments range from the flat out stupid, something like “It’s a cold night, pretty cold in winter in Melbourne it can get so tonight is no exception” to the flat out ridiculously stupid, something like “They’re down by 48 with only two minutes to go, they need the next goal here”. It’s like he was one day dared by a mate to show up at the MCG on a game day and try to convince someone to give him a microphone and media pass so he could get on TV, and now he’s so far into the ruse that he’s too scared to back out, so he just commentates accordingly.

Cameron Ling - The proverbial good bloke every man, never in the history of sports commentary has any one man made the absolute blindingly obvious, seem so damned blindingly obvious. I think if he was at home and saw a picture of a cat on the TV, he would just say the word “CAT” out loud. Wouldn’t matter if any one was there to see it or hear it, he just wouldn’t be able to help himself. If the picture of the cat was on TV for longer than 5-6 seconds, he would find himself saying “CAT” out loud again. Specialty Sideline comments have never been so drab, monotoned and boring.

JUST
COMMENTATE
THE
DAMNED
GAME.

Good post.
How about the commentary after Crowley’s goal when they were arguing that it shouldn’t have been a goal because Crowley was touching the post when he kicked it through.


“I don’t know the rules, but I think it shouldn’t be goal.”

There was the bit where they talked about Bartlett for yonks, some Tigers guy threw the ball, play on, five seconds someone says, “Was that a throw? Anyway, Kevin Bartlett…” And on it went. I think they think they’re commentating cricket where the need to fill air time. Hey knobs, footy is constant action, call it for us or get off.

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Might be fork time for Crowley.
Perhaps one last game against his old team.

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Watched it on DVR this morning.

I liked what we were trying to do, even if the execution wasn’t good. I at least felt like it was more of an attempt to attack and use the ball quickly… unfortunately the skills are just still way too deplorable. And from most of the veterans in the side, which is what is so disappointing.

I feel like our good players are as good as anybody, but our bad players are just flat out horrible and get smashed and we can’t overcome that. Obviously because of our situation we have a chasm between our better players and our dead weight.

I hope by the end of the year that we’re playing everybody young… Parish, Tippa, Edwards, Langford, et all are the future… I hope we can get Francis, Eades and some of the others in there eventually.

More than anything else it’s the same Richmond hacks who kill us every time, and I’m sick of them. As previously said, Dustin Martin’s made his whole farking career on it.

And yeah, that umpiring, lol…

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I know this is the match review thread, but I just want to have a lengthy rant about this ridiculous Saturday night commentary team.

Brian Taylor - An idiot. Rarely calls the game, simply rabbits on relentlessly about everything that enters his small mind other than what is happening right in front of him on the ground. Football is a side note for him, I think he finds the games boring/uninteresting and he genuinely believes he is a funny guy so he aims for what he would consider to be the hysterical one liner or the old rhyming slang. I can’t stand listening to his stupidity and he makes me hate watching football.

Luke Darcy - As thick as two bricks and twice as thick. He spends the entire night looking to bounce his level and version of humour off his hilarious mate Brian. Every now and then will mention something that is happening on the field, usually only talks about the flavour of the month player in Cyril, RANCE, Franklin or Cyril and I think every Saturday night wouldn’t know the names of all of the players out on the field. Usually aims for making an ‘insightful’ comment but generally comes off as sounding stupid (example I’ve posted earlier in this thread). Makes me want to mute my TV then punch myself in the groin until the pain down below makes me forget all about how much I hate football commentary.

Matthew ‘Richo’ Richardson - The low IQ, comic relief, Blokey ex footy player who clearly knows someone in the right place to continue in his employ. Comments range from the flat out stupid, something like “It’s a cold night, pretty cold in winter in Melbourne it can get so tonight is no exception” to the flat out ridiculously stupid, something like “They’re down by 48 with only two minutes to go, they need the next goal here”. It’s like he was one day dared by a mate to show up at the MCG on a game day and try to convince someone to give him a microphone and media pass so he could get on TV, and now he’s so far into the ruse that he’s too scared to back out, so he just commentates accordingly.

Cameron Ling - The proverbial good bloke every man, never in the history of sports commentary has any one man made the absolute blindingly obvious, seem so damned blindingly obvious. I think if he was at home and saw a picture of a cat on the TV, he would just say the word “CAT” out loud. Wouldn’t matter if any one was there to see it or hear it, he just wouldn’t be able to help himself. If the picture of the cat was on TV for longer than 5-6 seconds, he would find himself saying “CAT” out loud again. Specialty Sideline comments have never been so drab, monotoned and boring.

JUST
COMMENTATE
THE
DAMNED
GAME.

This tends to confirm a theory l have developed over the last few years. These guys it appears have been given licence to develop their commentary based on their own personalities above and beyond the game itself. What is happening out on the ground is now less important than the actual play. Could be the dopes they have hired to do the job. l much prefer radio commentary and always have.

Then the camera pans to Malcolm Turbull. And who he is talking to. WHILE THE GAME WAS ON! Like I give a ■■■■ who is in the crowd and who they are talking to. And it kept going back to him. And then the commentators started telling us who he was talking to and who he was sitting next to and what sort of hat Fitzpatrick was wearing FFS. Completely unprofessional. And the thing that ■■■■■■ me off most is that I am PAYING for this.

The football is getting worse with the rolling mauls, the umpiring is getting worse with the ridiculous unenforceable rules, the picture has gone to the pack with the increasing desire to show us new camera angles and the commentary is irrelevant juvenile and blokey.

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Someone mentioned earlier that they are concerned with the turnovers coming out of the back half. I have less of a concern with turnovers out of the back half than I do turnovers in the front half. How many times did we ping it in to no one. Or to a player who couldn’t mark it.

And why is it the opposition can seemingly take it from their back half and come all down the ground passing to players running into space on their own with no player on them, yet when we come out of the back half our players are all manned up?
It was just so obvious. Are we not trying to run off our man, or are we far too slow with our delivery and missing the first and best option? Sometimes a player would mark the ball and slowly turn around as if they aren’t interested in seeing what it opening up in front of them
It seems to me we must have been training to handball fast and move it on fast, but foot pass must be slow and deliberate. What else would explain a team that consistently waits until every one has made their leads (if any are made at all) then waits a bit longer before passing by foot?
Then passes backwards in an effort to get the loose man on the other side, but is so slow and obvious that the opposition is usually there before our players are.
Is it the coaching, is it the skill level, is it that they are getting mixed messages?
I realise that with a bit of luck and a few more consistent umpiring decisions in the first half we could have been right in this game, but it still wasn’t a great spectacle.
Which doesn’t say much for Richmond.

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l much prefer radio commentary and always have.
They're forced to call the game more but there are still many many clueless flogs: e.g. I can't listen to the ABC because of McClure. SEN is normally the least objectionable.

Considering your ability to multi-task during VFL games, I’m curious how many radio and TV channels you have on when you watch a game?

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l much prefer radio commentary and always have.
They're forced to call the game more but there are still many many clueless flogs: e.g. I can't listen to the ABC because of McClure. SEN is normally the least objectionable.
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That panned out pretty much as expected.

Comment of the day: Richmond supporter behind me “How come Goddard is allowed to play?” Her partner: " he didn’t take any drugs". Fk me.

Dumb play of the day: The Langford outmarked by Martin halfway between the 50m arc and the centre square then goes back and stands on the 50 metre arc - Martin just squeezes it over the line for a goal. He kicked from exactly where he took the mark. Kyle needs to creep forward a little, not back!!

Dempsey: not enough love for a wonderful return to the team.

Ambrose: worked hard on Riewoldt and beat him in a number of one-on-ones.

Walla, Parish: enough said already. Brilliant.

Jamar: worked hard but couldn’t fet the ball down to our mids. Took a couple of good grabs around the ground. Not our worst.

BJ: valuable, but turning it over too much.

Matt Dea: continues to impress.

Shaunye: jury’s still out.

Razz: best 22 next year. Get Colyer in there and with Darcy, Zac, Dempsey, Zakka and Walla we’ll have some serious pace around the ground.

Mitch Brown: continues to present like a real forward. Can kick a goal. Probably the most natural forward at the club.

Bags and The Langford: neither was up to his usual standard. The Langford’s field kicking is generally very creative and I reckon he’s going to be a superstar.

I’m very excited about the future. Throw in Francis, LAV, the returning players and our number 1 or 2 pick and we’ve got some serious talent at the club. We’re competitive each week, which makes me very proud, but we’re all getting sick of losing and there’s another 12 or so games to go. I want to see Longy and Eades get a run in 2016 and then let’s look at where we are. Win coming up.

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Dumb play of the day: The Langford outmarked by Martin halfway between the 50m arc and the centre square then goes back and stands on the 50 metre arc - Martin just squeezes it over the line for a goal. He kicked from exactly where he took the mark. Kyle needs to creep forward a little, not back!!

??? I don’t recall that play and Martin didn’t kick a goal.
Were you Meaning Deledio?

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LAV needs to be fast tracked back into the side

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Every game against Richmond in the past few years has been awful to watch and last night no exception. Their chipping around is Crap to watch and it's boring football. No wonder the crowd was flat for most of the game

As others have pointed out, we lost because we took the game on but our skills weren’t good enough and we turned it over too often. Most of their opportunities came from our mistakes.

Also why is it that in the back is only paid when it’s done with the hands? Three times in the tigers forward 50 they jumped into an essendon players back and pushed out with the legs. The one on tippa in the last was a disgrace it wasn’t paid.



Because we don’t want the speccy to be banned.
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Every game against Richmond in the past few years has been awful to watch and last night no exception. Their chipping around is Crap to watch and it's boring football. No wonder the crowd was flat for most of the game

As others have pointed out, we lost because we took the game on but our skills weren’t good enough and we turned it over too often. Most of their opportunities came from our mistakes.

Also why is it that in the back is only paid when it’s done with the hands? Three times in the tigers forward 50 they jumped into an essendon players back and pushed out with the legs. The one on tippa in the last was a disgrace it wasn’t paid.



Because we don’t want the speccy to be banned.

Wouldn’t surprise me if the AFL banned the speccy by mistake. Their decisions are full of unintended consequences.

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“They’re not giving up and not getting despondent, and not dropping their bundle if they make some errors. We just back up and we’ll go again.”

That is about as much as l am looking forward to on a week to week basis. The coach’s message is getting through.

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I’ve said this before but it needs saying again. Have you noticed we never get the umpires decision going our way in a dangerous position? It’s always in the back half or at a time when momentum has been lost. Vice versa the 50-50 ones always get given to the opposition in attacking positions.

Joey in my opinion should hit someone hard in a pack and take a weeks suspension. Might give the opposition something to think about when trying to double team him.

But on everything else, we do turn over the ball a lot but 90% of the turnovers if executed properly would’ve set us up beautifully.

I fear for Crowley as well. I hope our 12 are working hard enough during their forced hiatus.

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Dumb play of the day: The Langford outmarked by Martin halfway between the 50m arc and the centre square then goes back and stands on the 50 metre arc - Martin just squeezes it over the line for a goal. He kicked from exactly where he took the mark. Kyle needs to creep forward a little, not back!!
It was half the ump’s fault and half Langford’s. The ump set the mark wrong.
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l much prefer radio commentary and always have.
They're forced to call the game more but there are still many many clueless flogs: e.g. I can't listen to the ABC because of McClure. SEN is normally the least objectionable.
Yeah despite my dislike of there weekly presenters I actually prefer SEN's commentary teams, none of the egos of AW and triple M.

Scott Lucas is a very under rated special comments man.