Middle East Discussion

What’s happening right now?? You moron.

Justification incoming.

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You do realise that Isaeli is a nationality and not a religion? You moron.

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They’re killing them because they are Jews. Holy ■■■■ you are dim.

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So rocks and trees can talk now?

Bizarre crap. No one believes this nonsense, not if they are being honest.

Buuut…nice excuse / reason to kill their enemy coz book says so.
It’s not in the quran, but in Mohammed’s writings, but close enough.

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Are you stupid? They are fighting against the Israeli regime. You know Palestinian Jews exist? And you know there are Muslims in the Israeli state right?

Palestine and the Israeli state are nationalities. Not Religions.

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Yeah I kind of think anyone choosing to make Australia home regards themselves as an Aussie yes. Absolutely 100%. And yeah I think if you choose to make Australia home, accepting the benefits of colonialisation then its a bit hypocritical to look at the issue through purely a negative sense of the downside to colonisation on those who inhabit a place already.

I make that exact assertion. Palestinians being booted around, displaced etc is terrible. But they make it no easier to co-exist than the jewish forces who push them into a smaller area to secure peace in Israel do either.

You know Israel has come about in part after splitting up the Ottoman Empire. And splitting it up was all about giving the various peoples back a home that had been displaced many years prior.

And talk about displacement. Many of todays jews that live in Israel have been exiled from places like Iran, Yemen, Iraq, Egypt.

Israel aint going anywhere and Palestine isn’t helping it self harbouring supporting and using terrorists to I don’t know do what for what means.

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Can you lot stop this please?

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Yes. I’m well aware of the subtle nuance.

It’s a holy war. Not a territory war.

Palestine isn’t going to get more land and say “All good now guys. Cheers.”

It will never stop. They want them dead.

You’re a fool @JayMarley. I won’t be communicating with you anymore.

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Which side will Zeus be on? The Prophet Jesus side and his army or the anti christ side with the jewish follower army? What about Odin? Will Ra and the easter bunny be making an appearance too in this fracas? I assume so to keep Santa Claus company.

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And who’s fault is that given the Muslims, Jews and Christians lived peacefully before the creation of the Israeli state?

You’re basically saying “it’s too late so the Palestinians can continue suffering because they will fight the Israelis and we can’t have the Israelis dying”. So is the solution to keep the status quo? Keep having Palestinians murdered at the hands of an oppressive regime?

You calling me a fool for caring about the right for Palestinians to live free lives away from military occupation and an apartheid regime means absolutely nothing. You’re a fool who is not intelligent enough to recognise the reality of the situation. You are on the wrong side of history like fools always are.

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In response to a journo Q whether Australia would follow the EU in suspending aid, Penny Wong referred to the different way in which Australia delivers aid, mostly through the UN and international NGOS such as the ICRC.
There was much more in the interview .
The entirety of her presser in Adelaide should come up on the ABC site or her site. Balance.

I am finding it offensive of posters insinuating that, because I have posted some undisputed facts of the suffering of Palestinians, I’m a supporter of Hamas atrocities.
They could say the same about Penny Wong.

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I apologise if I made that insinuation.

Wasn’t my intention

Let me do that for you:
Israeli government

  • Apartheid
  • Genocide
  • Ethnic cleansing
  • Colonisation
  • Racism
  • Educating young people that Arabs are filthy and teaching them they are lesser
  • Watching Palestinians being killed by rockets as if its a firework display
  • Believe Palestinians have no right to live in the land because it is their promised lands though they have for thousands of years
  • Kicking Palestinian families out of their homes and leaving them homeless
  • Illegal settlement in Palestinian territory that is in breach of international law
  • Brutally killing Palestinian women and children for no other reason than they are Palestinians
  • Running an open air prison in Gaza
  • Blockade
  • Rationing basic needs like clean water, food, electricity and urgent medical supplies while the illegal Israeli settlers living in Palestinian territory get a constant supply.
  • Taking away the Palestinian right to vote and live a peaceful life.
  • Inhumane military checkpoints that restricts free movement of Palestinian civilians within Palestinian territory.

And all of this is only just the start. This has been going on for far longer than before Hamas even existed.

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Not you, I respect your position even if I’m not in agreement in various threads ( even the Watchalong!) . I consider that the two of us are having a discourse.

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Never gets enough Press.

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There is footage from last night’s rally in Sydney of the mob chanting “gas the Jews”, “f**k the Jews”

There is a genocidal Jew hatred that exists among a certain element of society and it goes way beyond grievances over land. I know it’s hard to understand for some, but the evidence is there. You just need to open your eyes and ears.

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Imagine for a moment that 9 out of 10 people would you be your best friend and wants nothing but to live in peace and harmony with you, but 1 out of every 10 would gladly see you, your wife and your children raped and murdered - and would even celebrate in the streets, set off fireworks and hand out candy afterwards.

You can’t be sure which 1 of 10 wants your head.

Now make peace with all 10 and invite them to your home. Would you?

If you’d sooner keep them all far away out of fear of inviting the wrong one, you may start to understand that complexities of finding a peaceful resolution.

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I know Hungarian refugees taken in by my family after the 1956 uprising. They were extreme in their anti Semitism, would not shop anywhere owned or operated by anyone Jewish. Otherwise they were nice and tolerant.

It’s more like 5 out of 10 would be your best friend. 1 out of 10 would rape and murder you wife and children. 4 out of 10 would condone it or at the very least justify it.

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