Missing/crashed planes, and other aviation mis/adventures

Planes do just disappear.

 

The most recent was Flight AF477 which vanished 2009.

 

It took 5 days to find the wreckage. And 2 years to get the black box.

 

If it was a terrorist attack usually those responsible have already claimed it. Otherwise whats the use in doing it.

 

Some catastrophic incident occurred instantaneously or something innocuous happened that didn't alert the pilots to any danger until it was too late.

It was icing in the pitot tubes that provide air speed to the pilots. They were therefore getting incorrect air speed and went into a stall.  They didn't know they were in a stall until too late, then one pilot was putting the nose down to gain airspeed (which as I understand is the correct response to a stall) while the other pilot was trying to lift the nose.

It went into the water in one piece.

At that time they knew there was a possible problem with the pitot tubes icing up and it was mentioned as a possible cause at the time of the disappearance.

Qantas had already changed all theirs, as had Singapore airlines. I know all this because I was flying to Rome a few months later and had my own best interests at heart.

I like to be safe.

That pitot tube incident also highlighted that aircrew would go against rational and logical flight thought processes in favour of ( erroneous) electronic instrumentation. Iirc, training was altered after that accident to put some more focus on allowing pilots to actually the fly the things.

There was another flight where the flight crew kept transferring fuel from one wing tank to the other because a faulty gauge and relay had failed to alert them that the tank had sprung a leak. It took the two faults to occur in tandem to trick the crew, but they should have twigged far earlier that they had just dumped 80% of their fuel into the Atlantic.

Edit: the second one was Flight 236, which diverted to the Azores and had to glide 60 nautical miles with both engines out of action. Incredibly, The pilots got the bus on the deck with no loss of life.

I must say as a bad flyer I am sadly addicted to Air Crash Investigations.

I must say as a bad flyer I am sadly addicted to Air Crash Investigations.

tis on right now. not something one would recommend to bad flyers however.

Ok, so I’m at work and can’t really look anything up, but somebody here (clearly a reliable source) reckons that on the flight, there were 20 people from a company who have the technology to Cloak a passenger jet…

Is that for real??

sounds legit

From news.com.au re the cloaking conspiracy::

 

http://www.news.com.au/technology/online/the-conspiracy-theories-surrounding-missing-flight-mh370/story-fnjwmwrh-1226851465289

 


The plane is in a secret airport

Conspiracy theorists say terrorists could have cut the transponders, dropped below the radar and flown the plane to an isolated airport somewhere in Vietnam — left over from the Vietnam War. The plane had at least seven hours worth of fuel on board and this theory is supported by the lack of wreckage.

The theory goes further with the possibility the plane could have been ‘cloaked‘, technology that uses a hexagonal array of glasslike panels to bend light around an object.

There are suggestions this theory could be linked to the 20 passengers on board who worked for Texas company Freescale.

Citizen news site, Beforeitsnews.com said: “It is conceivable that the Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 plane is “cloaked,” hiding with hi-tech electronic warfare weaponry that exists and is used. In fact, this type of technology is precisely the expertise of Freescale, that has 20 employees on board the missing flight”.

Why would they want the plane? Apparently to use as a weapon of mass destruction, 9/11 style.

not much doubt at all now that the two iranian fake-passport fellers were able to get on board because security personnel were too busy watching with morbid - and languid - curiosity as 20 other passengers attached hexagonal "cloaking" panels to the external surfaces of the 'plane.

not much doubt at all now that the two iranian fake-passport fellers were able to get on board because security personnel were too busy watching with morbid - and languid - curiosity as 20 other passengers attached hexagonal "cloaking" panels to the external surfaces of the 'plane.


Ha... Yeah, not sure how conspicuous that would be.
' What, just attaching some hexagonal panels to a passenger jet... What does it look like I'm doing?? '
Man, I can't believe that conspiracy exists.

not much doubt at all now that the two iranian fake-passport fellers were able to get on board because security personnel were too busy watching with morbid - and languid - curiosity as 20 other passengers attached hexagonal "cloaking" panels to the external surfaces of the 'plane.

wasn't it the terrorists who would have done that ?

bit sneaky of them to buy or steal that technology, only to use it on the people who designed it, on a commercial jet.

Hijacked plane, How can a plane just vanish?

Passengers would have sent text messages if the plane was hijacked.   


Hijacked plane, How can a plane just vanish?

Passengers would have sent text messages if the plane was hijacked.

Maybe sending text messages is what brought the plane down...

Here is another theory. As mentioned before information suggests that the plane veered West. So it would have been over Malaysian soil at some stage. There are some mighty thick jungles and maybe the plane actually went down over land.

 

Regardless, this is just an incredible mystery at the moment.

I’d love to know exactly what bit of Vietnam is isolated enough to hide a big freaking jet & couple of hundred people.

Now news suggests that the plane made a left turn, flew over Malaysia, and was last detected over the Malacca Straits heading towards Indonesia.

The info coming out just doesn’t make any sense now. The report says that a military station tracked the plane at low altitude for over an hour, during which time it covered 160 km. A 777 cannot fly that slowly. Unless it was flying a very random, zig zag course and they mean it covered 160 linear km. Either way, the info is very garbled and authorities probably know a shiteload more than they are letting on if the Malacca Straights info has any truth to it at all.

So  they think it went off the East Coast, then crossed back over the Malaysian pen without anyone seeing it (let alone tracking it), & flew up the West side towards Myanmar?

The info coming out just doesn't make any sense now. The report says that a military station tracked the plane at low altitude for over an hour, during which time it covered 160 km. A 777 cannot fly that slowly. Unless it was flying a very random, zig zag course and they mean it covered 160 linear km. Either way, the info is very garbled and authorities probably know a shiteload more than they are letting on if the Malacca Straights info has any truth to it at all.

And none of the passengers got their phones out, no distress signals. Maybe the aircraft de-pressurised, deliberately or otherwise?

 

 

Hijacked plane, How can a plane just vanish?

Passengers would have sent text messages if the plane was hijacked.

Maybe sending text messages is what brought the plane down...

 

They do say to switch all phones off before take off..


Hijacked plane, How can a plane just vanish?

Passengers would have sent text messages if the plane was hijacked.
Maybe sending text messages is what brought the plane down...
They do say to switch all phones off before take off..

It's bollocks though