Missing/crashed planes, and other aviation mis/adventures

Some dodgy stuff going on.

 

Change in course, miles from where it should have been, flying at a low altitude for a long time.

 

Hmmmmm.

Don't you people recognize an Alien abduction when you see it.

 

Geez, it's not rocket science FFS................................................oh, wait.

Do phones ring underwater? I read something somehere that 19 families had signed something to say that they've tried calling their loved ones and the phone has just rung out.

Do phones ring underwater? I read something somehere that 19 families had signed something to say that they've tried calling their loved ones and the phone has just rung out.


They do, it's a little known fact that they do, but most phone manufacturers don't tell you because they are afraid that people will use them in the toilet which is actually quite grose.
Here's how to test if your phone is waterproof.
1. Place phone in glass of water
2. Call your number from another phone that's close enough for you to hear the waterproof one ring, such as a landline or another mobile.
3. Listen for your phone ringing.
4. If you don't hear it ringing, don't be worried, remove the phone and check that it's not on silent. Then repeat steps 1-3
5. Profit

 

 

 

 

Hijacked plane, How can a plane just vanish?

Passengers would have sent text messages if the plane was hijacked.
Maybe sending text messages is what brought the plane down...
They do say to switch all phones off before take off..

It's bollocks though

 

It can interfere with certain navigational things(as we are made to believe), however nobody turns under 30 turns it off. Even I just put it on airplane mode and wait for the air host peeps to sit down. 

I can see the headline now.

 

'Missing plane finally arrives at destination, 30 years late'. :o

I can see the headline now.

 

'Missing plane finally arrives at destination, 30 years late'. :o

*Still better than Tiger.

 

I must say as a bad flyer I am sadly addicted to Air Crash Investigations.

tis on right now. not something one would recommend to bad flyers however.

 

Probably not, but it demonstrates a few things...that crashes/accidents highlight flaws in either component design, maintenance procedures or pilot training and occasionally unexpected weather phenomena and that those flaws are fixed or, in the case of weather phenomena, information is distributed and pilots are re-trained so they know how to deal with down drafts for example. I read in one of the articles about this crash that the latest stats have a crash occurring in 1 flight out of 5 million, a vast improvement on even a year or 2 ago when it was 1 flight in 2.5 million. Plus the show also demonstrates safety features like those in Airbus which effectively are meant to make it pilot proof (anti-stall for example).

 

One downside that does seem to be emerging on that show is the overdependance on/complete trust in computer systems vs. pilot skills, whilst in normal flight it'll correct pilot error, when the computer disengages or receives bad inputs, or its outside sensors fail for whatever reason, that is when crashes seem to happen as pilots in mid-flight are so used now to just putting it on autopilot and monitoring gauges.

Kind of like LOST?

 

 

 

 

 

Hijacked plane, How can a plane just vanish?

Passengers would have sent text messages if the plane was hijacked.
Maybe sending text messages is what brought the plane down...
They do say to switch all phones off before take off..

It's bollocks though

 

It can interfere with certain navigational things(as we are made to believe), however nobody turns under 30 turns it off. Even I just put it on airplane mode and wait for the air host peeps to sit down. 

 

They've covered this on Air Crash Investigation. There was a case where there was electromagnetic feedback on the Cockpit Voice Recorder and the investigators wanted to see whether it could've been caused by someone erroneously forgetting to turn off their phone/put it in flight mode, and in turn potentially affected the navigational systems. They didn't so much touch on navigational systems as see whether someone making a call from the passenger cabin, even first-class, would cause significant enough electromagnetic waves to cause feedback in the cockpit. The findings were that the phone would have to be used in the cockpit and almost directly on top of the instruments to cause feedback. So whilst they'll always encourage people to turn them off put them in flight mode due to the fact they emit electromagnetic waves and these can affect the navigation systems, the likelihood of a phone in the passenger cabin causing large enough electromagnetic waves to the point that it affects guidance is slim to nil.

American Airlines tell people to turn their phone in flight mode and to enjoy the Wi-Fi during the flight.

They have been doing this for a while apparently.

The switching off of phones is only enforced during the first 30mins of take off and last 30mins of landing.

In between, you can even have your laptop running, plugged in and charging.

I blame Putin, it’s all part of his strategy to deflect attention away from Russia.

with insurance and safety concerns in play, whilst the word "could" is part of the inflight mobile phone discussion, they will continue to baulk at making them totally ok to use.  the bans that most airlines have in place for take-off and landing is centred on the possibility that emf emissions could (there's that word) interfere with the GPS setups, which could prove catastrophic, particularly on landing where GPS data is increasingly used to position aircraft at the correct marker points for their approaches. (which comes back to the issue that pilots are increasingly relying on ever more sophisticated computerised inputs and less on seat-of-the-pants flying).

 

iirc, British Airways did a study and concluded that whilst equipment rated to 1980's EMF standards was still in use, the risk to aircraft from personal electonic devices was small, but real. or perhaps more accurately, it couldn't be definitively stated that there was NO risk.  and so the default position.

This explains it all.

 

One of the funniest skits Ive seen.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYAq-7sOzXQ

‘could’ is enough for me to turn my phone off when flying.

American Airlines tell people to turn their phone in flight mode and to enjoy the Wi-Fi during the flight.
They have been doing this for a while apparently.
The switching off of phones is only enforced during the first 30mins of take off and last 30mins of landing.
In between, you can even have your laptop running, plugged in and charging.

Yeah same with Delta although plenty of people ignore it :angry: . Once the flight reaches its cruising altitude they tell you it's ok to use electronics.

'could' is enough for me to turn my phone off when flying.

how frustrating is it when people can't follow simple instructions? you're asked to turn your phone off, do it. you're asked to put your seat up. do it. put your belt on, guess what, do it. 

Didn’t KAOS invent a machine that could make buildings disappear? I know Maxwell Smart stopped it but did they ever recover the blueprints for it?

pretty sure another reason they ask you to turn off the phones is that as theres so many new models coming out with differnet technology, they cant possibly test every variation

 

 

I must say as a bad flyer I am sadly addicted to Air Crash Investigations.

tis on right now. not something one would recommend to bad flyers however.

 

Probably not, but it demonstrates a few things...that crashes/accidents highlight flaws in either component design, maintenance procedures or pilot training and occasionally unexpected weather phenomena and that those flaws are fixed or, in the case of weather phenomena, information is distributed and pilots are re-trained so they know how to deal with down drafts for example. I read in one of the articles about this crash that the latest stats have a crash occurring in 1 flight out of 5 million, a vast improvement on even a year or 2 ago when it was 1 flight in 2.5 million. Plus the show also demonstrates safety features like those in Airbus which effectively are meant to make it pilot proof (anti-stall for example).

 

One downside that does seem to be emerging on that show is the overdependance on/complete trust in computer systems vs. pilot skills, whilst in normal flight it'll correct pilot error, when the computer disengages or receives bad inputs, or its outside sensors fail for whatever reason, that is when crashes seem to happen as pilots in mid-flight are so used now to just putting it on autopilot and monitoring gauges.

 

yep, pretty much it, altho last nights ep made me never want to fly any airline in Russia.