Missing/crashed planes, and other aviation mis/adventures

Didn't KAOS invent a machine that could make buildings disappear? I know Maxwell Smart stopped it but did they ever recover the blueprints for it?

They also invented a nude bomb - can't be long before Kim Jong Un releases his fury!

Basically what Saladin said, I think it's like using mobile phones at fuel stations. They don't do anything of huge enough significance, but no-one is prepared to categorically say they are "OK" so the rule is there.

 

The info coming out just doesn't make any sense now. The report says that a military station tracked the plane at low altitude for over an hour, during which time it covered 160 km. A 777 cannot fly that slowly. Unless it was flying a very random, zig zag course and they mean it covered 160 linear km. Either way, the info is very garbled and authorities probably know a shiteload more than they are letting on if the Malacca Straights info has any truth to it at all.

And none of the passengers got their phones out, no distress signals. Maybe the aircraft de-pressurised, deliberately or otherwise?

 

This seems a likely scenario. What i find interesting is that radar doesn't pick up planes if they fly below a certain height. This must be a failing of the system.

hence the expression “under the radar”. They’re just not aimed that low.

In the US you don't even have to turn it off at all any more, but you do need to put it into flight mode.  They have categorically said that there is no interference by any electronic devices so it's ok to do.  What is a complete headf*ck is when you spend time in the US and then get on a Qantas plane to come home and they make you turn it off.... 

 

At normal cruising altitude you're not going to get any signal anywhere, so no point leaving it out of flight mode.  That being said I have a hostess friend who does Qantas Link flights on the Dash 8s etc.  They never turn their phones off and can make and receive calls at the lower alt.

Chinese satellite may have found the crash site

We’re did u here that news allblack

Oil Rig worker also claiming to have seen the plane go down in flames off the east coast of vietnam.

Chinese satellite pinpoints possible site in south China sea.

Malaysian military supposedly track it across the Malay peninsula towards the straights!!

Amazing how you can get “sightings” in so many far-flung locations B)

Oil Rig worker also claiming to have seen the plane go down in flames off the east coast of vietnam.
Chinese satellite pinpoints possible site in south China sea.
Malaysian military supposedly track it across the Malay peninsula towards the straights!!
Amazing how you can get "sightings" in so many far-flung locations B)

Witnesses often report hearing multiple gun shots at shootings when there was definitely only one shot fired.
Same effect?

So China has had these images since sunday, maybe they tried to flog them off to Woman’s Day first.

Oil Rig worker also claiming to have seen the plane go down in flames off the east coast of vietnam.
Chinese satellite pinpoints possible site in south China sea.
Malaysian military supposedly track it across the Malay peninsula towards the straights!!
Amazing how you can get "sightings" in so many far-flung locations B)

Witnesses often report hearing multiple gun shots at shootings when there was definitely only one shot fired.
Same effect?

Maybe. But you would hope that military radar establishments are a little more empirical than that, lol.
Of course, it's all just media reporting, Malaysia haven't actually confirmed the radar story.

Odd by China, but they probably didn't want to reveal their satellite capability. If our over-the horizon radar stations were able to track the jet I wouldn't expect us to reveal for the same reason. 

Every one of those "sightings" has come from outside official channels & come with pretty stern "this is only a possibility and nothing is confirmed" warnings.

I'm taking them at face value.

I don't see what exactly they have to gain by hiding any awesome capabilities in the first place, let alone using them to rescue their own citizens with the world watching on.

On the site that claimed the plane was clad in anti-radar cloaking, this story is minor news. The big stories are:

  • Obama is the Antichrist
  • An alien invasion is imminent
  • Magicians are demonic entities and their magic is real
  • Michelle Obama is a man
  • The Apocalypse is coming!

http://beforeitsnews.com

The satellite image and the Kiwi sighting actually match up and also falls into the general direction the plane was heading.

On the site that claimed the plane was clad in anti-radar cloaking, this story is minor news. The big stories are:

  • Obama is the Antichrist
  • An alien invasion is imminent
  • Magicians are demonic entities and their magic is real
  • Michelle Obama is a man
  • Prepare for judgment, the end of days are near

http://beforeitsnews.com

100% strike rate so far

WJS article, by a very respected aviation journalist, indicates that the aircraft flew on for "hours" after loss of contact. Perhaps 4 to 5 hours!!

 

http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CDEQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052702304914904579434653903086282.html&ei=VUMhU4zMPMegkwXi_4CICw&usg=AFQjCNFJfYUdgaPQxOgJxT42I-BDc-ZrkA&sig2=nvGZGWRwqqVo9NSTzGVArw&bvm=bv.62922401,d.dGI

 

This is getting weirder and weirder.

Reminds me of this:

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-409703/Ghost-flight-horror-crash-blamed-pilots.html

 

<span style="font-size:18px;">'Ghost flight' horror crash blamed on pilots</span>

Human error by two pilots led directly to a packed passenger plane turning into a frozen "flying tomb" before it crashed - killing all 121 on board, the official report has concluded.

It blames the pilots for failing to spot the warning signs that led to the tragedy in which the Boeing 737-300 airline was hit by a catastrophic loss of cabin pressure and oxygen supply.

This turned the plane into a "flying tomb" at 34,000 feet as passengers were frozen to their seats by temperatures of minus 50c.

A steward fought desperately to save the stricken plane after he found the pilot and co-pilot unconscious.

But after he too was overcome, the Cyprus-based Helios Airways plane ploughed on for nearly two hours on auto-pilot before running out of fuel and crashing into a mountain 25 miles north of Athens on August 14 last year.

The official report says technicians in Cyprus who were checking the decompression system - following problems on an earlier flight - forgot to switch on its automatic activation.

But once airborne, this omission was compounded when pilots forgot to check whether the system was switched on automatic or manual.

As a result, the higher the plane flew the less oxygen was in the cabin.

This caused everyone aboard, except for the steward Andreas Prodromou, 25, to fall unconscious.

The remains of Mr Prodromou, who had trained as a pilot but been unable to secure a job, were found in the cockpit.

His girlfriend a stewardess, was also on board.

His heroics were witnessed by pilots of two fighter jets sent up when Flight ZU 522 lost radio contact.

It crashed at Grammatiko, north of the Greek capital.

All 115 passengers - all Greek Cypriots and Greeks - and six crew were killed on the flight from Cyprus to Prague which is the deadliest air disaster in the history of Cyprus and Greece.

The report concluded that the two pilots failed to competently operate controls regulating cabin pressure and misinterpreted a subsequent warning signs which led to the crash.

Specifically, the crew failed to recognise that the plane's pressurization switch was in the "manual position" before takeoff and not set to automatic - which would have allowed the cabin to pressurise by itself.

After take-off, the plane failed to pressurise and the two pilots did not recognise "the warnings and the reasons for the activation of the warnings," including one showing that the oxygen masks dropped.

That failure led to the "incapacitation of the flight crew due to hypoxia", or lack of oxygen, and resulted in the plane being flown on autopilot for two hours until it ran out of fuel and crashed.

The captain contacted Helios's operations centre after take-off.

As the aircraft climbed though 16,000 feet (4,879 meters), he reported warnings going off in the cabin, said the report.

"Several communications between the captain and the Operations Centre took place in the next eight minutes concerning the above problems and ended as the aircraft climbed through 28,900 feet (8,810 meters)."

"Thereafter, there was no response to radio calls to the aircraft," the report said.

During the climb, "the passenger oxygen masks deployed."

The report did not say if any of the passengers had managed to put on the masks.

But it confirmed that at least one man without a mask was seen alive in the cockpit by the pilot of a Greek F-16 fighter jet scrambled to intercept the airliner who "tried to attract his attention without success."

The plane issued two "Mayday" signals when the first engine cut out and crashed 13 minutes later after the second engine cut out, it said

Earlier this year, Mr Tsolakis said the flight attendant had wrestled with controls for at least 10 minutes before the crash, in a failed effort to regain control of the airliner.

Helios Airways Flight 522 had been travelling from Larnaca, Cyprus, to Prague, Czech Republic, with a scheduled stop in Athens.

Maintenance officials in Cyprus also took a share of the blame along with Cypriot civil aviation authorities.

The airline was also slated for "deficiencies in the organization, quality management, and safety culture."

The report also cited the aircraft's US manufacturer, Boeing, for "ineffectiveness of measures taken in response to previous pressurization incidents in the particular type of aircraft."

And official aviation authorities were also criticised for "inadequate execution of its safety oversight responsibilities" over time.

Helios Airways, a budget Cypriot airline, was replaced earlier this year by a new carrier called ajet.

The report was prepared by Akrivos Tsolakis, head of Greece's National Aviation Safety Board

and delivered to Greece's transport minister.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-409703/Ghost-flight-horror-crash-blamed-pilots.html#ixzz2vopeFTPZ 
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^ wow that’s incredible.

Well, that WSJ article certainly throws the cat among the pigeons if it’s true.

There’s probably another scenario that can account for all of the contradictory factors, but on face value you’d have to think someone just stole a Boeing. Even a breach of the cabin and resultant icy tomb shouldn’t take down the Transponder system, certainly not that quickly, if the engines are still running and powering the aircraft’s systems. the autopilot would fail before the transponders do, which is hard to explain if the thing stayed airborne for an additional 4 or 5 hours.

but weird ■■■■ does happen in aviation. there was a report during WW1 of a plane with both the pilot and gunner dead in their seats that landed intact and upright.