Next Generation Academies

I know this would open a can of worms, but in all seriousness if the AFL is serious about doing this to equalise the comp they should seriously look at retrospectively taxing teams that have benfitted from their previous sub par rules.

Seriously how is Bewick/Salopeck/Darwish/Pilot/Rodan etc worth 2+ picks each or going into deficit for the future draft when Daicos/Darcy et al are somehow worth a single pick.

And dont get me started on the farce that was GC and the last draft. Teams seriously should have bid on their players like patterson at 2/3 not 5. If that had of happened i can guarantee they would not have been able to match all. Which is part of the problem, other clubs have allowed this problem to fester and now the AFL is changing rules that is going to impact the other clubs the most.

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The reality is, they’re only worth 2 picks if you don’t have access to a pick high enough.

If Essendon has pick four in the Bewick draft, and he’s available at that pick, they can just take him.

It’s clubs trying to get a ‘bargain’ by getting ahead of a bid or trading into future drafts to avoid a bit that ensure the player requires multiple picks to match.

The best way to look at it is you pay multiple picks because unless you finish low enough, you don’t have access to that player.

I understand this doesn’t help with teams that have previously been able to access talent ‘unnaturally’, but that’s the simple reality of a system that has changed over time,

For what it’s worth, I think the planned system is much better and will lead to a lot more academy / father son selections being left to the open pool (or clubs trading out assets to ensure they can match bids on multiple F/S & Academy prospects.

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Is there any way to have a look at Essendon NGS/FS prospects draftable over the next 3 years at all?

I know the main ones will be playing for Calder in the U/18s. You can watch streams of these games via the Coates app (or maybe it’s the AFL app now, I think it migrated across) during the season.

Last year these were live and on replay.

Some (like Justice and Bewick) will play in the national championships too, which are generally available on the AFL and sometimes on Foxtel.

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Here is last year’s list

ACCELERATION GROUP

PLAYER NAME

FATHER/NGA

TURNING AGE (2025)

Khalil Kaakour

NGA

19

Noah Caracella

Blake Caracella - 126 games

19

Alex Alessio

Steve Alessio - 184 games

19

Alijah Davey

Alwyn Davey - 100 games

18

Divjot Singh

NGA

18

Zac Merhi

NGA

18

Huss El Achkar

NGA

18

Tristan Leeds

NGA

18

Jono Leeds

NGA

18

Adam Sweid

NGA

18

Blake Justice

NGA

17

Jad Naim

NGA

17

Olu Olalekan

NGA

17

Coen McGrath

NGA

17

Gabriel Tangata

NGA

17

Zein el Deen Osman

NGA

17

Viggo Sandberg

NGA

17

Edward Darcy Jnr

NGA - Tiwi

17

Nathias Burke-Miler

NGA - Tiwi

17

Koby Bewick

Darren Bewick - 238 games

16

Tevita Rodan

NGA

16

Moustafa Darwish

NGA

16

Ronan Yow Yeh

NGA

16

Thomas Caracella

Blake Caracella - 126 games

16

Max Alessio

Steve Alessio - 184 games

16

Mara Lovett-Murray

Nathan Lovett-Murray - 145 games

16

Aidan Ramanauskas

Adam Ramanauskas - 134 games

16

Logan Daniher

Chris Daniher - 124 games

16

Taj McPhee

Adam McPhee - 142 games

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Yes but given port’s academy and f/s players how on earth will they get it done as well.

May not end up at either club.

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I tend to agree. But i maybe on the outer… so far I dont overly rate him as yet also

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Both clubs should be pushing the AFL to have one-off higher discounts in 2027 to offset the impact of Tassie entering.

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AFL just practically gives away assistance packages for clubs nowadays. Surely we’ve warranted one to secure Bewick?

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We can just send them the link to that annoying Twitter account about days since we won a final. No idea if it still exists thankfully.

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We did get Kako via an AFL rule change that benifited us and he could be a star.

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Thanks!

Daicos / Darcy didn’t cost a single pick, they cost a handful of really ■■■■■■ picks.

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Many of us predicted years ago the AwFL would change the system for Bewick’s draft

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Just like they did before the Daniher draft.

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Life goes on. If we want him, we will get him

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We are discouraged from thinking there is a conspiracy of the AwFL against us.

But consider, and just restricting ourselves to the last decade or so:

  • Saga - we all know they did that to use us a convenient scapegoat to protect teams who won flags on PEDs (Hawthorn, WCE, Collingwood, Geelong)
  • no compensation at all for imposing the Saga on us (FCFC and Melbourne got multiple first picks as a consequence of AwFL-imposed penalties)
  • As you said, Daniher draft
  • absolutely egregious umpiring, best exemplified by the Rampe case, against which there is no defence whatsoever but nevertheless Gil declared it “sensible umpiring”
  • even many more cases where maggots decided games, eg Anzac Day is the next most blatant
  • heaps of other stuff
  • Bewick draft

Of course apologists and Vichy supporters will say they relaxed the rules [by the merest smidgin] so we got Kako.

Now ask yourself: what would someone NOT conspiring against us do differently from all that?

Well, most of that is BS to begin with. If you want Melbourne or Carlton’s picks, finish near the bottom. Or look at how the changes to academy rules screwed over St Kilda or Melbourne. And really, you think the umpiring is a sign???

The changes to the f/s rule certainly affected us in the Daniher draft, but it’s worth remembering that they were actually brought in significantly earlier. The idea was (I think) to prevent the Bulldogs getting rock-solid guaranteed gun Ayce Cordy (“who?” I hear you ask, and it’s a fair question…) for a bargain-basement third round pick in the 2008 draft. They finished high up that year, so they ended up spending pick 14. I think we were just the first club after that to have a top-end father-son talent on the cards.

While there’s plenty of stuff the AFL HAVE done over the past decade and a half to screw over EFC, it’s a bit of a stretch to claim martyrdom over a draft rule change that was instituted four full years before it affected us when Daniher came along in 2012.

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They wanted to ensure they had plausible deniability.

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