Our best ever trade

[jodo27]

Darcy was also on that list a few years before Joe !

[Ants]

Williams however was a dud.

He was 4 games less of a dud than A Lovett

I blame the St Kilda culture. Night out with Jason Gram, Sam Fisher, Montagna and co.

He was an angel before going there!

What was the reason for A Lovett leaving us in the first place? Can’t remember.

We pushed him as he was a basket case.
They needed speed to win a premiership.

[Ants]

Agree re the Francis trade but I don’t think it counts as Carlisle was going regardless.

But you can’t really count it like that. It was Carlisle for pick 5 which on it’s own is a good deal. Who we picked with pick 5 is the questionable part.

I agree in more modern times the Lloyd and Lucas for 3 B/C graders was a masterstroke.

You can’t really count that one though. The rules for Fremantle meant they pretty much had to take hacks, and give up gold. They weren’t allowed to keep the gold.

[Ants]

Wellman and Barnard trade was a great example where everyone involved had a win. Probably the only time Sheeds didn’t try to screw others over.

Denham - Barnes.

[Jake_Brady_10]

Gumbleton at pick 2 - to freo 8 odd years later for pick 55 - to razzle dazzleeee

[ealesy05]

D. Jarman to Crows, P. Salmon to Hawks, S. Wellman & P. Barnard to Essendon. At the time you would think we were screwed.

But in the end we gave up a bloke who wanted to play ruck that Sheeds refused to play as ruck (until he was 35 and had been retired for a season) and got two future Premiership players back.

Might not be the best ever, but it would be up there.

[JBOMBER]

Agree re the Francis trade but I don’t think it counts as Carlisle was going regardless.

But you can’t really count it like that. It was Carlisle for pick 5 which on it’s own is a good deal. Who we picked with pick 5 is the questionable part.

I agree in more modern times the Lloyd and Lucas for 3 B/C graders was a masterstroke.

You can’t really count that one though. The rules for Fremantle meant they pretty much had to take hacks, and give up gold. They weren’t allowed to keep the gold.

They couldn’t keep Lloyd or at least the ability to pick an underage player like him but I don’t think the Lucas pick was anything different was it?

[DonBomb]

Gotta be the best deal ever eh?

[Henry_s_Angry_Pills]

Yeah I think Lucas was a standard trade, Lloyd was a compo pick thing, and a bit murky how and why that was decided.

Remember when murky AFL decisions used to go our way sometimes?

[Ants]

I didn’t think they were allowed to keep any of their picks. It was the same for Port, who traded them for Primus, Wanganeen, etc.

[theDJR]

Worst…

Hawks sold us a lemon.

And we had traded out Lovett for pick 16 to Saints

My heart was broken over that trade until Lovett did himself over with his poor women related antics.

Still was spewing all the same. Wish he’d played more footy for us. Loved watching him.

We lost zero games for Lovett, got Carlisle clunking for a few years, Shotgun farked Carlton single-handedly, we farked St Kilda’s reputation (!) twice… and Franga is gonna bust games up for a decade.

That’s our worst ever?

[frosty]

You’re stretching that trade so far beyond that trade of you’re including Francis!

Also, we gave Hawthorn a massive help towards 3 flags. By giving them the pick they needed to get Burgoyne.

Gifting Hawthorn 3 flags… Yeah, an absolute shocker.

[JBOMBER]

I didn’t think they were allowed to keep any of their picks. It was the same for Port, who traded them for Primus, Wanganeen, etc.

I haven’t heard that before, they still had pick 1 remember that they used on White.

As for Port I’m a but hazy on the details of how that worked but I don’t think they ever had picks to trade only the ability to sign players like GC & GWS did but the compo was higher. Not sure though how WC ended up getting picks 1 & 24 for Ian Downsborough when we got less for Wanganeen or even Cummings for that matter. Just to highlight how the AFL’s ability to compromise integrity for their marketing aims has no equal, Brisbane ended up getting picks 3 & 26 for a guy who never played for them.

[Bomb_Doe]

list of all our drafts and trades - some names I have no idea who they are

https://www.draftguru.com.au/clubs/essendon

[ivan]

That’s not even accurate. We got back pick 24 (J Carlisle) - and pick 33 was in there too along with some late picks going out.

Right you are.

“The Bombers have traded pick No.16 - the selection it received for Andrew Lovett – to Port Adelaide, Pick No. 42 (Geelong) and Jay Nash (Port Adelaide) and acquired Mark Williams (Hawthorn), Pick No. 24 (Port Adelaide) and pick No.33 (Geelong).”

Forgot about the JC link. Williams however was a dud.

Mind you pick 33 we took Anthony Long who did nothing, and if Francis bombs after trading Carlisle for him might still end up a horrific overall trade.

Max Gawn was taken immediately after long who was a massive over reach as a second round pick, could have been rookied

[Crazy_Bomber]

That’s not even accurate. We got back pick 24 (J Carlisle) - and pick 33 was in there too along with some late picks going out.

Right you are.

“The Bombers have traded pick No.16 - the selection it received for Andrew Lovett – to Port Adelaide, Pick No. 42 (Geelong) and Jay Nash (Port Adelaide) and acquired Mark Williams (Hawthorn), Pick No. 24 (Port Adelaide) and pick No.33 (Geelong).”

Forgot about the JC link. Williams however was a dud.

Mind you pick 33 we took Anthony Long who did nothing, and if Francis bombs after trading Carlisle for him might still end up a horrific overall trade.

Max Gawn was taken immediately after long who was a massive over reach as a second round pick, could have been rookied

Dodoro scares me with his second round picks (usually in the 30’s), loves a good project player.

[Henry_s_Angry_Pills]

Only real blot on that draft.

Melks and JC (one of Disco’s project picks) will be 200 gamers, Colyer a 100 gamer - maybe 150, Hardy useful 50 gamer in the PSD, Howlett and Cramers 100 gamers in the rookie draft.

A Long had some talent, but IIRC he’d barely played in his 17s or 18s year?? Surely still there in the rookies.

[frosty]

Except Sydney were going to take him in the second round.

[Clone_Hirdy]

Surely Colyer and third round pick for Gaff was our greatest ever trade?

[scotty21]

Offloading a pair of ranga’s to freo and using picks on Lloyd and Lucas