If they genuinely want to assist then they need to be raise the age for funding eligability from 6 to 7. People also need to be aware that only kids with a level 1 diagnosis go into main stream schooling. Level 1 is what used to be referred to as high functioning and as Aspergers. These kids mostly are not uncontrollable loose cannons, they just need a bit of extra help.

For starters there are currently 164,000 ASD kids in Australia, special schools would be over run

It's a ■■■■■■■ stupid idea

Get better early screening programs or raise the age, then hire the right amount of people


I'm not sure where you are getting your info from but its wrong, at least for Vic. There are loads of kids in mainstream schools who are nowhere near high functioning. Like I said you are confusing Fahcsia funding which is allocated to a child diagnosed with ASD before the age of 6 & must be used within 12 months. Its to provide treatments & supply aids for the child at home. This is not supplied to the school particularly because many kids are not starting school till they are nearly 6-7. The schools do their own testing to apply for extra funding (I believe they do it at the start of PS & again in high school). This is a standard cognitive test & basically for the kids to get any funding they have to have a low IQ, low functionality or some physical disability. Many of the kids on the spectrum, particularly those with average or above average IQ's & verbal capabilities do not qualify for any extra funding. School funding & diagnosis are not linked. Schools can apply for extra funding based on behavioural issues but this is difficult & requires a lot of documented incidents. This is again why many kids on the spectrum, many kids with ADHD,ODD,PDD do not get any additional resources allocated to them through the Gvt & the schools are left to try to manage them as best they can - this is the major issue I believe. I know of parents who have deliberately sabotaged their children's testing (take them off meds, keep them awake all night, coach them to fail) so that they make sure their kids get the school funding. Its a disgrace that parents have to resort to those levels.


Qld, it's the same in NSW too, I've spent the last two years as a family support worker working with people and families with mental health and disability challenge, I've gone through it about 50 times in the last 2 years. Plus I helped my sister through it with my niece in Victoria, Level 1 diagnosis, average IQ, got an aid via the school for 25 hours per week, plus in school speech therapy in addition. this was just last year.

Her development being in main stream schooling with an aid for the past 18 months both socially and scholastically has been outstanding FWIW,

You are right though, we coach families who had kids with early diagnosis of global developmenal delay or pragmatic language delay into how to get the help in schools because neither of those conditions whilst still impacting children in a very similar way to ASD in school, qualify for aids.

It's about outcomes for children, I don't give a ■■■■ about the politics.


Honestly can't believe anyone would even think about defending her attitude or what she said.

My son is autistic. He is 9 and only recently diagnosed. He is towards the top of all the subjects in every class he is in. His autistic characteristics are to do with anxiety and social interaction. He is sensory seeking and struggles to maintain relationships, he can lack empathy for other people and genuinely gives zero f***s what anyone thinks about him. Most people however would never guess he was anywhere on the spectrum.

The message she sends to kids like that is that they aren't normal, they aren't good enough and are holding back "normal" children from learning. I doubt I have ever agreed with any of her policies, at least not the big stuff. I havent trolled the whole one nation page as I value my time a little more than that but to speak about autism as if you can lump everyone together is frustrating and heart breaking. If you want to be a public figure you need to approach whatever you say with more care and caution than she ever has. She has pulled the wrong string on this one and commented on something she has less than no idea about.

Not even for the kids with autism is this an issue, where does it stop. Where do we expect other kids to learn to deal with those who think and function differently. This is an insane amount of backward thinking and clearly from the believe that school is about nothing more than book education.


It's Hanson's us and them thinking and politicking


And that's unless you are white, and now able, we don't want you.


I don't generally give a s*** what she has to say but then you start reading her followers posting stuff and it just shows you where the world is at. She plays off prejudice and fear, it is horrifyingly ugly. She is the human representation of everything that is wrong with our political system.


It's heartbreaking. Such an ar*ehole


I agree with everything you say about Pauline

But I have listened to her speech three times, and while it is hard to follow, what I got out of it that she hopes with Gonski 2.0 that more teachers and support were available for kids with special needs.

She articulated it very poorly, but I think she is being pilloried for something she didnt intend. She needs to understand that less is more in speeches and she says too much and gets into trouble.


Not really.

She is an issue politician. I'm afraid I find that hard to agree with.

If she were focused on solutions, as the Andrews Govt is on this very topic, she may be possible to agree with.


All politicians play off prejudice and fear dude, whilst your son (going off what you say, correct me if I'm wrong) is able to keep up, there are many kids with severe forms of autism who should be able to learn at their own pace. Take it by a case by case basis, we are not going to shoot every kid with disability, just putting them in a class where they can get more help.

My cousin is 30 and has severe autism, had to go to a special needs school because he was unable to keep up with other kids, my uncle and aunty completely understood what she meant. Again case by case.


that’s absolutely the point


I posted this on my facebook page, and it might be the slogan on @BLOODSTAINED_DEVILS next tshirt.

Pauline Hanson is pig fat to a fire of morons


Did you see her comments today when she was asked to clarify what she was suggesting?

Here is another grab, context not required

"Have a special classroom where they are being taught and they can mix with other kids at lunch"


Have a separate classroom for every single kid who's got any slight Autism tendency. Seems perfectly workable.


The issue about what she is saying is very much what @allblack is talking about. She is tearing apart social inclusion, and telling kids who only want to be included that they are different and should be segregated.

Anyone who sees any merit in that is ignorant ■■■■

Sorry, but that's a fact.


To Pauline Hanson, my daughter is just an 'other' who needs to be dealt with

When I first saw Senator Pauline Hanson’s comments on the education of disabled children, my initial reaction was contempt. It’s a common response to most anything Hanson says and when it is related to children with a disability, as a parent of such a child, my reaction is even more swift.

But perhaps we should be kind and offer her more generosity than she ever gives anyone who doesn’t fit her picture of what Australians should be. Maybe we should suggest that Hanson was not intending to be hurtful towards children with a disability or autism.

Let us be generous and assume when she argued that “we are not providing the special classrooms or the schools for these autistic children” that she was actually arguing for more funding for such areas. Certainly that would be a worthy point to make.

Children with a disability do often perform better in special classrooms – and even schools. My daughter, for example, attends a public school in the ACT where she spends time in her mainstream class and also in a classroom with students with special needs. Once she reaches high school age, we will also decide whether to send her to a specialist school for children with an intellectual disability.

But such resources cost money. So bravo, Senator Hanson, for calling for greater funding for disability education.

But no. That is not what she is arguing. Throughout her speech she actually decries the need for more money. Her concern is that there is actually too much money being spent on education.

These are her words: “My concern about this is: why do we need another $18.2bn thrown at this when the federal funding for education now is just under $88bn?”

That is her concern – that more money is being “thrown” at education. Just before turning to the issue of children with disability in the classroom, she said: “I hate to think what Labor would throw at funding for the schools, because we cannot afford it.”

Now let us again be kind and suggest that she wants that money “addressed in the classroom” by providing extra services to children with disabilities. But that requires a level of generosity which is nowhere present in her speech. Rather her speech – as is so often the case with her political outlook – is about “the other”.

When she says, “We cannot afford to hold our kids back,” she is not thinking about children with a disability. They are children to be got out of the way so the focus can be on “the child who is straining at the bit and wants to go ahead in leaps and bounds in their education”.

In Hanson’s view, “that child is held back by those others”.

“Those others.”

There is no care in Hanson’s speech for the child with autism who “wants to go ahead in leaps and bounds”, or indeed children like my daughter who likewise loves to learn and who every day is “straining at the bit” to improve her communication.

No, for Hanson, my daughter and children like her are just “the others” who need to be dealt with because they are a handbrake on the learning of children without a disability.

Does someone who comes from a place of kindness and compassion for children with a disability really argue that “it is no good saying that we have to allow these kids to feel good about themselves and that we do not want to upset them and make them feel hurt”?

So we should not have to allow those children to feel good about themselves?

Again, let us be kind and say that if she was arguing “it is no good saying that” it was because words are not enough and you need to back it up with greater funding.

But no. She does not go down that path. Instead, she follows up that statement by arguing: “We have to be realistic at times and consider the impact this is having on other children in the classroom”.

The impact of allowing kids with disabilities to feel good about themselves.

One who argues that the problem with education is that it is run by people who “want everyone to feel good about themselves” is not someone who wants to see those with a disability treated on an equal level – or even given greater resources.

And being equal is vital to their learning because one of the greatest things for many children with a disability is to be included in mainstream classes – not to be viewed by either the system or by their peers as “those others”.

And let us leave aside the fact that such interaction makes for a better and more giving society.

As ever, Hanson added in a cover – the equivalent of “some of my best friends are gay” – by saying: “If it were one of my children I would love all the time given to them to give them those opportunities.”

And yet she does not argue from such a position. She argues as one who does not have a child with a disability and who only sees such children as a hindrance to the learning of her own.

The problem with Hanson’s remarks is not that there is no issue with funding for education of children with a disability – of course there is – but that she makes no argument for such funding and even pours contempt on those who would because that is the type of funding proposed by “do-gooders who want everyone to feel good about themselves”.

And it would involve funding going to “those others”.

Children with a disability are not holding anyone back and are certainly not to blame for the ills – real or imagined – of our education system. Senator Hanson deserves to be held in contempt for insinuating such a thing.


Honestly it is hard enough to accept and help your kid find his place in the world let alone have an elected member showing that level of ignorance. I know she isn't probably talking about kids like Ollie but it isn't good enough.

That article is spot on @Reboot

Also would love to know in her world who decides which children deserve a regular education.


I'm pretty sure she doesn't even understand that autistic kids with diagnosis who are in main stream schools have been deemed fit to do so by at least 6 different medical professionals who specialise in the condition.

I will spit on her if I ever see her


On another political note, and sorry but I need to vent somewhere, but fark the polis and their pay rise. 2% pay rise effective as of July 1 by an 'independent' body who detailed they had received an increase in complaints about the level of pay when compared to those in the private sector.

If upward of 150k isn't enough for you and you're crying poor then fk off to the private sector you leaching ■■■■■■! Not as eloquent as some of you lot, but makes me feel better any way XD