Russia invades Ukraine - 3 - from 23 Oct 2022

Great summary. Yes, the Ukrainians are doing well atm blunting russian attacks. Vuhledar:

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Nice…

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Good practical walkthrough, showing how the various parts work and what they are like to crew.

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Very strong EU membership vibes.

Estonian PM.

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There are 2 types: active and passive. Passive uses sound to locate the source and is not very accurate. Active uses radar.
The problem is that once you turn it on, it is like a beacon or torch in the night, and easy to target and destroy.

Actually, a third is UAVs and they have beed used extensively for that. But you need ones with enough range

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https://mil.in.ua/en/news/portugal-confirms-its-intention-to-transfer-leopard-2-tanks-to-ukraine/

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LOL

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That subscription is really paying off Biggy

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What about satellites? Are any militaries using satellites, especially geo sync ones for counter battery fire. If not how long before the tech is ready? I would have assumed the US/NATO would have saturated Europe with satellite borne sensors.

What about starlink, I read there are over 3000 of them up there and they are doing work for the US military?

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Very dumb question on passive location
The Australian search and rescue team helping in the earthquake in Turkey will be totally mobile self sufficient, including their own drones.
Would comparable mobile teams with drones be used for passive artillery locations in this instance.?

Satellites flick past too quickly. Their dwell time over an area is seconds. It’s why the Chinese sent that balloon, sit and absorb information.

The answer is oodles of radars all switching on for short periods and then moving before they get hit. That isn’t easy to organise and requires a mass of gear that NATO doesn’t have.

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That still makes me cranky.

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You referred to all this in a previous thread. Don’t worry about the wikipedia review, the “Falsifications of History” publication is ridiculous enough in itself, pp40-41:

By this time there was already no doubt left that, far from intending to make any serious attempt to prevent Hitler Germany from starting the war, Britain and France, on the contrary, were doing everything within their power, by means of secret deals and agreements, by means of every possible kind of provocation, to incite Hitler Germany against the Soviet Union.

No forgers will ever succeed in wiping from history or from the consciousness of the peoples the decisive fact that under these conditions, the Soviet Union faced the alternative: either
to accept, for purposes of self defense, Germany’s proposal to conclude a non-aggression pact and thereby to ensure to the Soviet Union the prolongation of peace for a certain period of
time~ which might be used by the Soviet State better to prepare its forces for resistance to a possible attack on the part of an aggressor; or to reject Germany’s proposal for a non-aggression pact and thereby to permit war provocateurs from the camp of the Western Powers immediately to involve the Soviet Union in armed conflict with Germany at a time when the situation was utterly unfavorable to the Soviet Union and when it was completely isolated.

In this situation, the Soviet Government found itself compelled to make its choice and conclude a non-aggression pact with Germany.

The primary basis for “no doubt” that Britain and France wanted Germany to attack the USSR was optimistic transmissions from a German ambassador to Berlin. So therefore, what choice did Russia have but to invade Poland?

You have swallowed all this tripe and more- your comments on Finland are straight out of this book. That second paragraph quoted above is Pyongyang level material. I will not derail the thread further with your insinuations that the USSR turned from communist exemplar to fascist monster sometime around the 1950s. The USSR was born in blood and bathed in it regularly. I will not argue your ludicrous distraction about events being beyond our living memory. Interestingly the book goes on to assert Russia’s rights to parts of Ukraine.

On a more positive note, we are both on Ukraine’s side, perhaps for slightly different reasons. The disrespect you show to those needlessly killed by the USSR has to be balanced against the real work you do in supporting the current effort on a technological level and the efforts you make in rousing support. I appreciate having your around here.

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It doesn’t carry pawno ads, unlike the official UA media site Ukrinform…
And no paywall

Sites like Spartacus and Rosa Luxembourg quote from primary undoctored Soviet military archives
As we know from our own experience here, people with political connections have been caught doctoring Wiki articles, including omitting primary source references.

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Thanks. Yes I have been reading posts here long enough to know all that, and in my OP I referred to the newer Western shoot and scoot AA which have also been demonstrated here many times. I thought they should be able to take out more of the Russian artillery which as posted many times here is increasingly antiquated.

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