Season 2024 - Hawthorn

They are garbage

Cant wait to wait that little flog Mitchell squirm under the pressure

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Newcombe has been less than ordinary this season, he has gone backwards at a rate of knots and looks a shadow of his former self.

True but this is the 3rd year under Mitchell’s rebuild they should be starting to show some growth by now. Mitchel said it post match they are passed these type of performances.

Look you lot, I hate Mitchell probably as much as the rest of you but I cannot believe that anyone deserves our scorn, vitriol and hatred as much as that sniping little prick clakko.

Priorities people…priorities!!!

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They’ve had a couple of good quarters and halves…against top teams…and then have a shocker.

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He looks very demonstrative.

he actually looks like hes morphing into CLAKKO.

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Lock up your chairs and walls.

According to this Clarkson and Fagan are in line to get a bigger payout than the families!
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/hawthorn-families-in-stalemate-over-racism-saga-reconciliation/news-story/47ce2655a36d8ffd657e2f065d87e606

You may need to post the whole article, most in here do not have access.

Hawthorn, families in stalemate over racism saga reconciliation

A 21-day “extension to engage’’ is nearing an end as a stalemate still hovers over conciliation talks in the Hawthorn racism scandal.

It’s believed the major issue is not between the united Indigenous families and former Hawks staff Alastair Clarkson, Chris Fagan and Jason Burt, but rather Hawthorn’s initial willingness to accept a bevy of requests asked by the families.

The amount of compensation – for the families and for the coaches – is also a contentious issue because, a source said, it’s possible that the accused (the coaches) could be paid more than the alleged abused (Indigenous players and partners).

One source said all parties were “miles apart’’ in discussions, but another source was hopeful of resolution.

“It’s every likelihood that it finishes in court,’’ one source said.

Another source said: “It was a positive experience.’’

It is understood the 21-day extension concludes this week.

Among the demands, the players and their families want an apology, an acknowledgment that they suffered pain, hurt and stress when they were at Hawthorn, and that the club would adopt a raft of policies and programs to deal with the past and future issues of racism.

These policies would include a structured truth-telling framework, similar to the one which was put in place by Collingwood as part of their Do Better report.

The Hawks, who were represented at the conciliation talks by president Andrew Gowers, were quiet onlookers, a source said.

Clarkson attended both days and Fagan the first day of the March 26-27 talks, which put them face-to-face with the players for the first time since they were accused of historic racist behaviour 18 months ago. The pair have vehemently denied the claims.

It’s not known if the players are seeking a direct apology from Clarkson and Fagan or if the pair is planning to offer one – but they listened to the “truth-telling’’ exercise.

Clarkson described the dialogue as “productive’’.

“The last two days have represented the first chance that we’ve had to sit down together and do what you should always do in trying to resolve difficult situations, and that’s talk about it,’’ he said in late March.
“That was really productive and a worthwhile two days, but the process is actually incomplete and until such time that it is over, then we’re bound by confidentiality to not discuss anything about the proceedings at all.”

Gowers is optimistic a settlement can be found.

“The phrase ‘mending fences’ is the best description I could give everyone because it’s exactly what we are trying to do with former players and their families, and former coaches and their families,” Gowers told 3AW on Easter Monday.

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Holy crap that’s appalling.

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Clarkson must have some serious dirt on the AFL. He can literally get away with anything.

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Mitchell getting very angry in the box, and doing a drive by rant abusing one of his own players when his team ( 2nd last ) was being humbled by Sydney (2nd top) .

Now just what did you expect Sam, some kind of miracle ? The reality is, its early stages of a rebuild

200w

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The evidence from today says otherwise.

And long may it continue

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Does anyone else not buy what Sam Mitchell’s been peddling the last couple of years as coach? Something doesn’t feel right in the way he has acted since his appointment. He’s not genuine. Trying to be something that he’s not.

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Developmental pathways are the same as they were when Sam Mitchell came through, but he’s realising that coaching takes a lot more effort now (away from gameday).
Under 18s footy isn’t played the way AFL is played so players need to be required to play as well defensively as they do offensively. Add on top of that they need to learn to play within a zone and have a good understanding what your teammates are doing (and vice versa) and all of a sudden slapping a team of predominantly 22 year olds and under makes it very hard to handle games that get away from them.

I think the Hawks (just like North) have cut too hard. So you have young players gaining experience (which is great) but they are learning in a losing environment which is likely to have wild results.

If you club is going down the youth development path, you’d hope eventually the development bears fruit and wins a premiership, but it doesn’t always work that way.

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