Really common in the police force
Elijah Taylor, what’s he up to now?
Again, happens more often than you’d think and there isn’t much a workplace can do about it.
Can certainly see given the nature of the job that being very common.
Well they can sack their employee like North’s/AFL has done.
What good will that do? And no, allegations of criminal conduct are not grounds for termination of employment. The football world is not like the real world from a workplace perspective.
Also, what if the partner is lying? That’s happened a few times, where vindictive spouses will call their partner or former partners employer and allege a whole range of things, mostly baseless, to make their life difficult.
my read would be that whatever Thomas did was abhorrent enough that the women in question said look this will come out publicly, it has to for him to stop.
(so even if there is some sort of back and forward abuse it will be bad regardless)
So the AFL said dont release it publicly or at least wait until we have cut him loose.
Lot of AFL news being released this week. And we don’t get a mention.
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The AFL and NM had the resources to investigate what was alleged. The investigation found that there was sufficient evidence to support the claims and his contract was terminated.
I think this makes it a completely different context to most other workplaces. They simply do not have the resources to do that.
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I thought normal practice was the AFL sanctions any club who brings wrongdoing to their attention?
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Doesnt take a lot of resources.
Women: Here are the hundreds of abusive text messages. With some of the worst.
AFL: Ok we will take action thanks for bringing it to our attention.
I really dont think other than someone demonstrating the messages have come from his phone/social media account it takes a lot of resources. If presented that a sole operator could flick an employee. Specially one on a contract
To me that seems like a pretty critical bit of an investigation like this, not just a minor detail.
No but doesnt need a whole lot of resouces does it? it takes a whole lot of resources to try and sweep stuff under a rug and pretend it didnt happen.
Sometimes you need to acknowledge and focus on your strengths.
(I’m talking about the AFL and their sweeping skills, not anyone in this discussion.)
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yah coming across as argumentative.
sorry @Chris_1993 not what i am meaning to come across as.
was more a learning about how people manage domestic violence. its kinda of a important discussion topic if domestic violence is going to end.
think it can be dealt with without an army of people and should be more often is kinda what I am meaning. (so the attitude that only a big organisation like the AFL and a professional footy club could do that would be wrong i think)
All good - you weren’t coming across as argumentative to me.
I don’t think it takes a well-resourced group to handle allegations of domestic violence, even a small group can (and should) do things like supporting the victim - including support to report to police for proper investigation.
I think the delineation is having the capacity to sufficiently validate allegations to terminate employment.
yeah thats up to North Melbourne. Id say they thought they could keep him at the footy club based on how he influenced their group.
but to cut him loose only after the AFL gave him an 18 week ban is unusual from the outside looking in.
Id have thought North probably should have been the one acting to delist him based on the evidence, not needing to wait for the AFLs OK. But the AFL and its clubs seem to be a strange organisation
Not sure that you can sack an employee for doing what this turkey did unless it is part of the employment contract like AFL
Hes on a contract.
Whether they pay him out or not would be the only bone of contention.
If one of my employees was sending abusive texts to a woman he knew, we could not sack them for it. Most employers do not have such codes of conduct.