true enough
Yep, you’re right. They really have been top blokes after all.
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I was told that Jobe never really felt he earned it. And that Cochin was the better and more fairest player and should have won it. So in keeping with that narrative the AFL really are helping the club and Jobe out.
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Funny how some posters twist the question to suit their agenda.
Tanner said that the AFL looked after us , so the question should be : Can you identify anything the AFL has done FOR us - not What has the AFL done TO us
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Jobe told you that?
Yeah man. It doesn’t sound legit to you?
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Just on Bruce Francis article
I wish he would stay away from emotive vague heresay to club history of recent times. His strength is the investigation and it’s that power of work that has a core base following his words. But the comment on Woosha and after his first year coaching the players were not liking him?
At the end of 2016, it was actually one of the most positive times at the club in recent memory. We had a young group of kids playing hard every week that even had fan ovations after a loss. 10 banned players after discussions with the coach decided to return which even the media had to admit was an incredible achievement. Here are some of their reasons for returning.
Hurley quote at end of 2016 on why he signed a 5 year deal to stay
“What became clear was my strong bond with the playing group, I have some really great mates at the club, we’ve made a lot of progress and I want to achieve success alongside them.
“The club has made significant changes, [coach John Worsfold] has had a huge impact in a short period of time and I’m looking forward to playing under him next season and beyond.”
Dyson Heppell discussing Worsfold in 2017 after the 2016 season
"I think he’s been super in what he’s been able to do in a short amount of time.
“The way he’s gone about it, the way he’s been able to gel this playing group, I think he’s been fantastic.”
Bellchambers on why he returned to club at end of 2016
“I feel I still have plenty of good footy left in me, I’m excited about our future under John Worsfold and the opportunity to build a really strong ruck combination with Matthew Leuenberger is very exciting.”
So to say at that time the players were not liking Worsfold is completely opposite to statements by players themselves and the general togetherness and fight of the younger and top up players at the time. I was genuinely shocked Bruce wrote that. I have no issue saying for me that’s simply not true as there is overwhelming evidence to suggest so
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I imagine that, like most organisations, employees are asked to do upwards assessments, which are always kept in house. Public statements may bear no resemblance ( no way would I diss those up the line in public). I do not know whether Bruce is speaking the truth, just as I have no idea whether he is making it up. But, as a pattern he usually has some basis for his assertions. That said, I don’t think it is that important what the players think of the coach. He is their coach and they ought to work to his instructions.
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Those player statements sound like they were scripted by some PR flunky.
And if you don’t think so, look at Hep’s statement about “in a short amount of time… he’s been able to gel this playing group”
Contrast that with the main message we have heard consistently so far this year from Worsher himself, about problems of getting the team to gel because of three new players coming in.
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Dunno, but odd that they should be making public statements.
So Hurley signs a 5 year deal to toe the company line and decides he just has to put up with Woosha?
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Hurley signs a contract, I don’t know whether it is a condition of his contract to toe the company line, or whether he was driven to sign the contract because he is committed to Woosha . I doubt that it is a condition of his contract that Woosha - or anyone else- should be his coach. But I have no inside information,
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Why don’t you ask Bruce why he wrote what we wrote about the players and where the information came from? Get the info from the horses head.
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Well is it? The people flogging memberships on the phone were saying, we’re top 4, get into the draw for finals tickets or you’ll miss out." Where did that info come from? Perhaps the same place.
So if the team bombs, does that money become an automatic donation to the Hangar?
So Bombers started going backwards after David Evans began making appearances back at the club / dressing rooms. Mmmmn
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There’s a herald sun article behind a paywall that I can’t get to on my phone but this news report is based on it
Hmm, . Ch 9 has "Obtained" an email, …
Summinz up … all this stuff happening cannot be a coincidence.
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Clearly Bomber thought Evans had enough information to “save” the players and coaching staff. I assume it’s information that can verify that the AFL had preferred outcomes and that they had actively manipulated (“created”) events to ensure those outcomes?
At any rate. Whatever it is, Evans is still CHOOSING to keep that information to himself… sort of like Dank.
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Embattled footy star Mark ‘Bomber’ Thompson’s desperate plea for help
Michael Warner, Herald Sun
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FALLEN footy great Mark “Bomber” Thompson pleaded with former Essendon chairman David Evans to “save my life” in a desperate email.
The email — sent to Evans days after James Hird’s drug overdose in January 2017 — reveals that neither ex-coach Hird, his former assistant Thompson nor the players were coping, five years after the club’s doping scandal erupted.
Evans quit his Essendon post in July 2013 — days after revelations he was allegedly “tipped off” by then AFL boss Andrew Demetriou about the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority’s investigation.
In his email, obtained by the Herald Sun, Thompson told Evans both their lives had been “changed forever” by the scandal. He wrote: “I think it’s time you stepped up to be the man we thought you were.
“It’s time to start fighting for the truth for all our sakes, and most importantly for the players’ sake. They deserve to know everything we know about this fiasco. It’s time we all stood up and right the wrong.
“James will die if you continue to let the world bully him. Your former best friend will die fighting for the cause … You need to save my life and that of James Hird, Danny Corcoran, Dr Bruce Reid and 34 current and past players.
“You would save the game in many ways. It’s been a cover-up from the start. And like Watergate, the cover-up is worse than the crime.”
Thompson, 54, was charged on May 1 with seven counts of drug trafficking and possession, after police alleged they found illicit substances including ice, ecstasy, LSD and ephedrine during a raid on his Port Melbourne home in January. He strongly denies all the charges.
Thompson continued in his email: “He (Hird), like me, cannot get over the fact we have been used as scapegoats, never given the chance for natural justice, reputations slandered publicly and our souls destroyed by an organisation you have agreed to support all this time.”
Thompson is on bail on the drug charges and returns to court next Friday. His outlaw bikie housemates, Bandido-linked Karl “Bang Bang” Holt and Rebels associate Thomas Windsor, have also been charged with serious drug offences.
Friends of the double premiership-winning coach at Geelong — and a flag winner as a Bombers player — say the doping saga and his “bitterness” at perceived injustices have contributed to his downfall. Hird has been among those to reach out to him recently.
Thompson told Evans in the January 2017 email: “Unless the truth comes out and the general public demand the Australian Football League rid itself of this behaviour, then we will allow this style of management to exist in the future and people will end up hating the game.
“The AFL needs to stand up and take responsibility. They need to say sorry and they need to tell the players what they know.
“They should fight for the 34 players who have been found guilty by the Court of Arbitration for Sport for a fair and correct verdict, or else sack WADA and ASADA because everybody believes it was a joke to suspend these players in these circumstances.
“How can you honestly let all this happen knowing the AFL have deliberately created this situation and allowed players to be suspended as drug cheats?
“That’s what is killing James Hird and it sits really poorly with me. The players hate Essendon and hate the Australian Football League. Please help and I bet you will feel better yourself.
“Hope … that you care enough to help the Essendon players so we can all start living again — Regards and cheers, Mark Thompson.”
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And the C9 news is now not mentioning it at all.
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