As well as who else was there, did the EFC Board know about the intention of Evans to snoop around the club.
Maybe Catherine_Lio could find out from Brasher if Evans consulted the Board and reported back on his weekend of discovery just before the self report.
Would that be a problem Catherine_Lio ?
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I don,t think Catherine was on the board at that time .
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Correct-Brasher was. She could ask Brasher what he knows and get back to us.
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The official version is that the Board knew nothing about what was going on in the football department during the supplements program. Perhaps it had no knowledge of what Evans was up to?
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Nice piece, thanks for posting
So very, very true.
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Like Father, like son.
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Well Big Al - the business community should be made aware that before they even think about installing Evans on to a company board, they take into account he has a predisposition for making unilateral decisions.
Maybe Catherine_Lio could put an awareness out there if she finds out from Brasher that he and the other EFC board members at the time, knew nothing of the David Evans discovery weekend.
That surely can’t be right? Didn’t Hird, Thompson and Reid front the Board about Hamilton and Robson, demanding that Robinson and Dank be sacked because of their incompetence? Not only weren’t the three men listened to, they were ignored and they were gagged. Reid had also written a letter which went missing and was never found??? The Board didn’t want to spend any money or couldn’t afford to pay them out.
Did Hamilton, Robson and Evans keep secret about what they all knew, from the Board? I find it hard to believe the board didn’t know anything at all and that they were completely in the dark…Are the Board now saying that Robson, Evans and Hamilton kept them in her dark. I do not believe the Board’s reply, some of the Board knew.
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Despite Hird et al going to the board & asking, … then insisting, they sack Dank because of their concerns about what he was doing, … only to be told no, as it would cost too much.
But sure, … “We knew nuthink!!”
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Talk about believing your own bullsh1t, don’t tell us that no one on the Board asked any questions about what the hell was going on in the Football Department? Or, when Evans said openly he had been snooping around the club that weekend, searching for information, didn’t anyone on the Board think that was remotely strange behaviour???
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IIR, Evans made a reference similar to thats what the players were on at a horse racing function. Not sure when or who else was there at the time.
If anyone has access to this comment, would they like to post this here for accuracy and review please?
I think we are engaging in misinformation here, even a little bit more than normal.
When Evans denied knowledge of the program he would have (I think) being referring to the detail of the program that came under investigation. Every one in footy knows that very club has a supplements program, but the Board wouldn’t know which supplements, or how many or how they’re delivered etc
Also, there is no hiding of information by Evans or anyone else at the club. Hird and others were looking for documentation to confirm that the supplements were WADA compliant but were surprised when the invoices could not be found. ASADA also found no purchase documents for AOD or thymosin (except for that one batch that Charters brought in from Shanghai). That is the common thread through the NRL & AFL investigations re Dank ie he doesn’t leave a paper trail. Why would he? He’s not as bad as the media have made out, but he’s still shonky.
Evans’ silence is deafening and confirms what Bomber accuses him of; but to suggest he hid documents that could have saved (is that what is being said here?) our club and champions and players being destroyed is a terrible accusation with no evidence to support it.
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Loose weeney. Hehehe.
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A country racing horse trainer was pinged for using TB4 on his horse, sometime after the saga. If Evans made that comment, could have been in that context.
To the best of my knowledge, E34 the only athletes found to have used TB4 ( not Cronulla or Sandor Earl at the Panthers). Contrary to the assertions in the CAS report, Essendon seems to be the only club for which Dank had a history of TB4 use at a club.
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Did Hird and co go to the Board or just Robson, who took it on himself to say no? We don’t know whether Hird told Evans.
How do you come to the position that Evans did not hide or remove information?
We know he went to the club and snooped around.
We know the audit trail of documents is non existent.
You could very easily take the view that Davey, with little knowledge of the program,
spent the whole weekend getting his hands on every document he could find to make sure anything inculpatory was removed, thanks to being alerted by his mates.
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Think that was brought up by Martin Hardie, re a luncheon he had attended and was on the same table as Evans.
He was at Essendon for a couple of months I recall.
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To note that Dank worked for Manly for around 6 years. Manly stated that it did not have a problem with Dank, other than a dust-up about him bypassing the doctor when he proposed injecting a player, after which he was let go. Reportedly at that time Hibbert ( the “gazelle,) was selling players supplements from the boot of his car and may have been supplying Dank. ASADA did not pursue Manly.
I could not access information on Dank’s record keeping at Cronulla. Maybe it was a problem, but did not get tested at the tribunal stage as the players rolled over. I do know that the NRL also banned Dank, but reports seem to have remained confidential. Perhaps it was raised at the defamation case involving John Mannah?
As to knowledge of Evans weekend visit, is there a source from the MSM, or in Chip’s book?
You have no motive, no evidence and no one outside this crazy internet forum has suggested it is a plausible explanation of anything. It ignores the fact that Evans is Essendon. It ignores the fact that Evans’ priority was to have the players cleared and he thought the best way was to accept the AFL’s insistence that our key decision makers would need to be sanctioned for governance failings. It ignores the fact that ASADA performed an incredibly detailed forensic investigation and found nothing - because apart from the issue of where the thymosin came from there is nothing else that we need to know. Are you saying Dave hid the thymosin invoice and let the players sink. What a load of shizen.
His failings were that he didn’t set up a wall around the club and tell ASADA to prove the accusation of PED use. Rather he found Doc Reid’s acknowledgement that he couldn’t guarantee that Dank didn’t use something banned as being confirmation of the AFL’s insistence it was fact. He failed as the email suggests, to come out and slam the AFL for their contrived, manipulated outcome. He failed to support our coaching and management staff. These are real failings with some evidence to support these accusations.
Nothing could save the club from the bad governance charge as the AFL rules are written so they can clobber any club that steps out of line; and obviously we did stuff wrong. We didn’t keep detailed records. There is no lost spreadsheet. Dank has a history of shoddy disorganised management (ask Chip) and he certainly wasn’t leading the AFL industry in keeping supplement records- and he would’ve needed to be a leader as we know other clubs had overlooked the detailed records required to be kept.
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That’s not correct. We do know Evans went to the club the weekend prior to the report. Can’t remember the source but I believe there were multiple.
What we don’t know for sure was what he did.
However given there was no evidence left of the program the assumption was made that records were destroyed. The assumption was also that the belief of Evans and Vlad was that the players could not be found guilty of anything when there was no evidence.
EFC would offer up a coach or two, AFL would fine the club and that would be that.
We all know how wrong that was.
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