Sorry Saga - “It’s actually quite funny people thinking they know more than they actually do”

What he didn’t say was unless its ASADA, WADA or the AFL.

What bastards.



Rough translation of second last sentence; “I find it interesting that a Tribunal like ours, located in Switzerland, and part of our federal Tribunal system, can intervene in a practically 100% Australian affair.”


And the Swiss legal code explicitly rules out people being tried twice which is exactly what CAS did to the 34 Essendon players:

1 No person who has been convicted or acquitted in Switzerland by a final legally binding judgment may be prosecuted again for the same offence.


Yet that hypocritical ■■■■ stain of a ■■■■ Mitchell had the nerve to pretend he wasn’t on the end of a cutting edge injections program. Bang smack in the zone to help their own ■■■■■■■ threepeat


As for Operation Puerto, involving multiple athletes - probably far more than 34- from multiple international sports, WADA has only been able to ping about three cyclists - others known to have doped will not be named as they are covered by the Statute of Limiitations. WADA blaming the outcome on lack of cooperation by the Spanish authorities.
LOL, even if it can’t prosecute, why not name and shame the ones it has positively DNA matched and let the sports federations act?

It would more realistic to produce a list of who they didn’t catch or their top 5 of the dirtiest events that haven’t been fully acknowledged by WADA etc.

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The International Sports Federations know how to work the system, protect their star athletes as WADA works its ways through various Olympics and other international events. Meanwhile ASADA and the AFL , absolute minnows pretending to be from the big end of town, proceed to wreck multiple lives - in cooperation with the the AFLPA and the AFLCA.


What - Statute of Limitations has expired - WADA has no reason to name the athletes and if they tried they will run into legal issues - Finally, the public have no reason to know the names of athletes who have committed no offence.


Fark I hate the “nobody is above the law” ■■■■■■■ mantra spouted by neo-fascists like Dutton. No one is above the law for plebs like myself but you and your ilk can break them with impunity.


Is this the same Richard Ings that had no issues with finding Essendon guilty with no proof ““I am no fan of Sun Yang. But he has served his suspension for a doping violation and he has been cleared by a FINA panel of refusing to provide a sample. Innocent unless and until proven guilty,” Ings tweeted. “Not standing on the podium with him should attract a hefty penalty.”


Hypocrisy on stilts.


Not only did he have “no problem” with essendon players being judged guilty, he gloated it it for ages.


Sacked Podcast: Guy McKenna explains how Gold Coast dodged an Essendon-style ASADA bullet

Jon Ralph and Glenn McFarlane , Exclusive, Herald Sun

Guy McKenna’s dramatic intervention saw Gold Coast narrowly dodge a similar ASADA bullet to the drugs drama that almost destroyed Essendon.

The sacked Suns coach has revealed how he constantly butted heads with the club’s then strength and conditioning coach Dean Robinson — and Stephen Dank who was briefly employed by the Suns — and was never comfortable with what he called the “guru-ism” applied by some sports science operators.


Robinson and Dank would later reunite at Essendon and would oversee the club’s ill-fated 2012 sports supplements program which rocked the game’s foundations, cost the Bombers millions of dollars, saw 34 players banned by WADA for a year, and tarnished James Hird’s coaching legacy.

“We never hit it off from the start, Robbo and I,” McKenna told the Herald Sun’s Sacked podcast series.

Robinson had been recruited to Gold Coast from Geelong, where he had been a part of two premierships, but his methods did not sit well with the Suns’ inaugural coach, who warned him on two occasions that anything the players took needed to have a “green tick”.

Guy McKenna wasn’t impressed by the guru-ism of some fitness experts. Picture: Luke Marsden

Dank also worked for three months with the Suns — November 2010 to February 2011 — but was quickly shown the door after some troubling internal warning signs.

“We brought him (Robinson) on obviously because of his record down at Geelong,” McKenna said. “That was a fairly short term of employment up on the Gold Coast because there were certain conversations held with me …”

“My simple response (to him) was ‘We are funded by $100 million by the AFL, mate. We can’t be seen to be bending or breaking a rule, so whatever we use with our players, it has to be on the green tick list. Simple’.

Dean Robinson worked at the Suns for a short time under Guy McKenna.

“So we had two conversations around that, and I thought that’s enough, surely an adult would understand that conversation.”

The Suns were later dragged into the Essendon sports supplements probe in 2013 when it emerged Gold Coast defender Nathan Bock was under investigation from the AFL and ASADA after allegations he had been injected with a banned substance to help his recovery from a broken leg.

Bock was later cleared by ASADA due to insufficient evidence.



Dank had earlier claimed he had provided Robinson with prohibited peptide CJC-1295 from which Bock was taught to self inject.

McKenna stressed he was relieved Gold Coast high performance manager Andrew Weller — now with Cricket Australia — was with the club to provide a “cross check”, but admitted Robinson had “some weird and wonderful ideas that just didn’t (work) for a young group.”

Part of that was working off-site in various physical endeavours, including trampolining, which the players found taxing and rallied against.

Stephen Dank was briefly employed by the Suns. Picture: Luke Marsden

“The great thing about Andrew Weller is that it was all about nuts and bolts,” McKenna said.

“The guru-ism, and all these blokes who live off it (is a worry). I am not saying Robbo did, but there were some blokes out there who were (saying) ‘OK, let’s do this, and let’s do that, and it will have a spike (in performance)’.

“It’s not sustainable because you have to keep coming up with spikes for 22 weeks in a season, and if it’s in a pre-season over 22 weeks, what are we going to do?”

McKenna admitted it was difficult to challenge Robinson at first, given what he had achieved at Geelong, but soon realised his alternate methods were a concern.

“That was the parting of the ways,” he said of Robinson’s exit from the club at the end of 2011, after little more than a year in the job.

Robinson’s exit was explained as a return to Victoria for family reasons, but there was little doubt McKenna had a hand in his departure.

The man known as ‘the Weapon’ ended up at Essendon, and brought Dank into the club, which set in motion one of the most explosive chapters in AFL history.

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Bock was later cleared by ASADA due to insufficient evidence.

Dank had earlier claimed he had provided Robinson with prohibited peptide CJC-1295 from which Bock was taught to self inject.

So that’s what happened to the charges - insufficient evidence! ASADA treats the taxpayers like fools.

Then there’s the AFL. Who would believe they didn’t ask why Weapon and Dank we’re leaving Gold Coast? Then they let Essendon employ the rogues. What a shambles of an organisation. The only things they do well is cover up and organise jobs for their mates.


And yet FOI requests denied and other key documents requested won’t be released as ASADA claimed investigation ongoing.


it all sounds like BS to me


McKenna is a failure.